New Shocker Style????

[PimpDaddyZanwaa]

Ooh I am so gettin one of these badboyz, just gotta save up 4 one,

i cant be arse sellin the marker i have now, im just gonna save up, have 2 markers probally aint a bad idea anyways

 

[QuackingPlums]

Dooooo it! I did!

Now I have two rippers, and they rock!

 

[dr.strangelove]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah, whatever, etc, etc, etc,...

It's only a few hundred extra dollars per (non-SP electro) marker, and the collapse of small electro-producing companies anyway, right? Last I checked Microsoft doesn't own a blanket patent on any and all computer operating systems, and Hoover doesn't own the patent on the vacuum cleaner. However, the "dam good" people at Smart Parts DO own "the" patent on electronic markers. Enjoy your new Shocker '03, pretty soon it'll be the NICEST marker on the market! (of course, it'll also be the ONLY marker on the market)

 

[Gyroscope]

...except for the Matrix. Since Dye owns that patent, and Smart Parts is copying that operating system, they can't sue Dye for violating their patent on electronic switch systems. The only people who'd come out ahead would be each company's lawyers.

 

[QuackingPlums]

Originally posted by dr.strangelove
Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah, whatever, etc, etc, etc,...

It's only a few hundred extra dollars per (non-SP electro) marker, and the collapse of small electro-producing companies anyway, right? Last I checked Microsoft doesn't own a blanket patent on any and all computer operating systems, and Hoover doesn't own the patent on the vacuum cleaner. However, the "dam good" people at Smart Parts DO own "the" patent on electronic markers. Enjoy your new Shocker '03, pretty soon it'll be the NICEST marker on the market! (of course, it'll also be the ONLY marker on the market)

However, BT *DO* own the patent on hyperlinks - don't go clicking any buttons now, won't u?

It's common business practice for ANY company who owns a patent to attempt to enforce it in court - whether it amounts to anything is another issue, and whether that patent was issued without thorough checking of prior art, common sense, etc, is a job for the lawyers to argue.

Microsoft do not own a blanket patent on software, but Xerox owned the patent on the mouse, the windowing system, and menus. How did that affect the PC industry? Not a fat lot cos judges threw it out.

And besides, I'm pretty damn happy with my Shocker and my Impy, and if the Nerve gets made from the proceeds of any legal action, I'll be damn happy with that too. So what if it becomes the only marker on the market?

 

[dr.strangelove]

I'm not familiar with BT, so I'll have to take your word for it.

It's common business practice to enforce your patents in court but it's not common practice to be granted outrageously far reaching patents, and then attempt to monopolize an industry with said patent (not that most companies wouldn't if given the opportunity, it's just (supposed to be) illegal)

Will judges throw this out? Who knows! You wouldn't think that the patent office would senselessly grant a patent as blanket as the one SP now has, so who's to say that common sense will be used by, of all people, a US judge?

I guess I probably should actually be supporting SP's efforts to destroy it's competition, because without using the ideas of it's competitors, SP won't ever come out with another marker anyway. The "damn good" Smart Parts markers that you enjoy now are only in existence because of the R and D of other paintball companies, and if they shut down, there goes all of SP's "damn good" new marker concepts. Yep, you know what? I've changed my mind, EVERYBODY BUY FROM SMART PARTS.

P.S.

Sorry for the thread jack, I'll be good now.

 

[craig jarvis]

lets get back on track here, who gives a **** about the patents not me, companys have patents for a reason, so if anyone wants to infringe them, then its there choice not yours or mine.

Alexfarkouh, i have the stock feed, and the halo is sanded to suit, the stock feed looks ideal cos its a lo rise, was thinking of getting a twister no-rise, but cant see the point of dropping £30 at the moment

 

[QuackingPlums]

heh... I certainly don't give a **** about the patents thing... it's just funny how this kind of thing goes on all the time, yet the paintballing community has latched onto this particular one because they think it will have major repercussions on the industry... whether it does or not, it's not going to affect me and what I buy in the slightest.

The BT case was an example I used because it IS true, and there WAS an outcry in the IT industry when they started court proceedings to charge people for clicking hyperlinks, and yes, it was thrown out because despite the patent being granted, common sense dictated that this was, quite rightly, stupid. And yes, it was a US judge who used his noggin...



Anyway, back on topic of colours, I now have the dilemma of whether to keep the blue halo I've bought (but haven't fitted to my shocker yet cos it's still having its eye fitted) or to buy a new clear one from Campaign, cos after all, patents aside, bling is everything right?

I have a twister on my 03 which fits the EggII perfectly... hope the halo fits without sanding...

 

[KillerOnion]

Originally posted by gyroscope
...except for the Matrix. Since Dye owns that patent, and Smart Parts is copying that operating system, they can't sue Dye for violating their patent on electronic switch systems. The only people who'd come out ahead would be each company's lawyers.

It would be very nice of DYE to step in on this and tell SP to drop their silly lawsuit or be sued themselves in a case that DYE would clearly win. Just a thought.

 

[joe bob]

sweet! so you can buy a matrix and not have to pay royalties!