New Pro League

[TmBwm740]

Originally posted by Russell Smith
The networks do not pay to air little known programmes at all, why should they.
Every morning the tv sports directors have a pile of so called sports proggammes land on their desk so they are not short of stuff to air.
You said they should use it because it will make money, How!
If you get real lucky you may get them to produce and film it free - but I doubt it.
But good luck.


Russ

Actually it wasn't supposed to start out on television. Here's my vision: We do some advertising. Actually alot of advertising. Stick the idea down America's throats literally. Then all the sudden, exhibitions start happening all the time in places like Time's Square, and Six Flags, and places like that. Everyone will be curious. What's this new thing. People like it. It's created so much public interest, every single network is racing to put it on. I was thinking making money by sponsorships. Sure.........This kind of campaign will take an insane amount of money. But when you show people how big paintball is becoming..........You won't be able to resist putting your name on it.

 

[Buddha 3]

You seem to dwell in Backwardsland, where everything happens in reversed order...

About time you wake up and smell the coffee, n'est-ce pas?

 

[TmBwm740]

Originally posted by Buddha 3
You seem to dwell in Backwardsland, where everything happens in reversed order...

About time you wake up and smell the coffee, n'est-ce pas?

Hmmmmm.....No. It's what the NPPL is trying. The PSP I guess just don't want people to know about them, but yeah...........It's the same thing NPPL is trying to do, but on a MUCH bigger scale.

 

[Chicago]

Paintball is, indeed, a WAY underserved market. Way less out-of-industry money going to it than the participation numbers would indicate should be going to it.

But, what's your angle? Why would someone take YOUR version of paintball over one of the other versions of paintball?

Let's take poker for an example. Somebody put poker on TV, and it did really well. Now *EVERYBODY* has poker on TV. Travel channel, ESPN, game show network, bravo, etc, etc. What's the most popular poker show? CELEBRITY poker. All the other poker shows are the same.

What i'm trying to tell you is that FORMAT is not a differentiator that anyone is going to pay for. Once someone decides that they want to get involved i the market, they're going to figure out how they want to be involved, and look at hte options. Why is your option better than the other options available? Format won't work, because formats are EASY to create - sit down for a couple days and think about it - and you can tweak it as need be as you produce the show/coverage whatever.

Now look at NPPL or NXL. They have something you can't just thik up on a Suinday - NAE RECOGNITION. They've been around a while. Yeah, you COULD spend millions to get that same recognition, but why bother when it can be bought cheaper from someone else?

You're too late in the game. You need to come up with an ANGLE, if there is one, as I doubt celebrity paintball is going to cut it.



At the end of the day, you make TV when the network comes up with the right answer to this question: "Will advertisers pay to buy advertising as part of this program?"

And an advertiser doesn't have a clue about formats. 3-man, 5-man, 7-man, X-Ball, paintball played on swings, what they want to know is how many people play, how often, how much money they spend, how old they are, etc. That's it.

 

[Buddha 3]

Originally posted by TmBwm740
Hmmmmm.....No. It's what the NPPL is trying. The PSP I guess just don't want people to know about them, but yeah...........It's the same thing NPPL is trying to do, but on a MUCH bigger scale.

I hope you realise the silliness of that statement...

The BIG, FAT, HUGE, HUMONGAZOID difference is that the NPPL already had people playing their game (albeit a joint NPPL/PSP venture back then). So it's got jack **** to do with what you're proposing.

Coffee still ain't reached your nose, huh?

 

[tom9]

all paintball needs is one person....with lots and lots and lots of money and dedication

only then can i see the sport as a whole, not just pockets of the game, becoming a viable mainstream sport with tv coverage and 'global' recognition

nothing will happen if we have lots of people with little ideas of their own but still people are trying....we need a worldwide fund for paintball and does anyone know this elusive billionaire paintball fanatic?

 

[TmBwm740]

Originally posted by Chicago
Paintball is, indeed, a WAY underserved market. Way less out-of-industry money going to it than the participation numbers would indicate should be going to it.

But, what's your angle? Why would someone take YOUR version of paintball over one of the other versions of paintball?

Let's take poker for an example. Somebody put poker on TV, and it did really well. Now *EVERYBODY* has poker on TV. Travel channel, ESPN, game show network, bravo, etc, etc. What's the most popular poker show? CELEBRITY poker. All the other poker shows are the same.

What i'm trying to tell you is that FORMAT is not a differentiator that anyone is going to pay for. Once someone decides that they want to get involved i the market, they're going to figure out how they want to be involved, and look at hte options. Why is your option better than the other options available? Format won't work, because formats are EASY to create - sit down for a couple days and think about it - and you can tweak it as need be as you produce the show/coverage whatever.

Now look at NPPL or NXL. They have something you can't just thik up on a Suinday - NAE RECOGNITION. They've been around a while. Yeah, you COULD spend millions to get that same recognition, but why bother when it can be bought cheaper from someone else?

You're too late in the game. You need to come up with an ANGLE, if there is one, as I doubt celebrity paintball is going to cut it.



At the end of the day, you make TV when the network comes up with the right answer to this question: "Will advertisers pay to buy advertising as part of this program?"

And an advertiser doesn't have a clue about formats. 3-man, 5-man, 7-man, X-Ball, paintball played on swings, what they want to know is how many people play, how often, how much money they spend, how old they are, etc. That's it.

Well my angle is it's just fun to watch. And also, there's a difference in marketing with mine that I didn't really talk about in the description.

 

[TmBwm740]

Originally posted by Chicago
Paintball is, indeed, a WAY underserved market. Way less out-of-industry money going to it than the participation numbers would indicate should be going to it.

But, what's your angle? Why would someone take YOUR version of paintball over one of the other versions of paintball?

Let's take poker for an example. Somebody put poker on TV, and it did really well. Now *EVERYBODY* has poker on TV. Travel channel, ESPN, game show network, bravo, etc, etc. What's the most popular poker show? CELEBRITY poker. All the other poker shows are the same.

What i'm trying to tell you is that FORMAT is not a differentiator that anyone is going to pay for. Once someone decides that they want to get involved i the market, they're going to figure out how they want to be involved, and look at hte options. Why is your option better than the other options available? Format won't work, because formats are EASY to create - sit down for a couple days and think about it - and you can tweak it as need be as you produce the show/coverage whatever.

Now look at NPPL or NXL. They have something you can't just thik up on a Suinday - NAE RECOGNITION. They've been around a while. Yeah, you COULD spend millions to get that same recognition, but why bother when it can be bought cheaper from someone else?

You're too late in the game. You need to come up with an ANGLE, if there is one, as I doubt celebrity paintball is going to cut it.



At the end of the day, you make TV when the network comes up with the right answer to this question: "Will advertisers pay to buy advertising as part of this program?"

And an advertiser doesn't have a clue about formats. 3-man, 5-man, 7-man, X-Ball, paintball played on swings, what they want to know is how many people play, how often, how much money they spend, how old they are, etc. That's it.

Also.......I think you're forgetting NXL is really just two years old.

 

[Chicago]

The NXL is really almost three years old, in the sense that that's how long X-Ball has been being pushed. It's also got a big-name non-paintball production company behind it, and has already seen airtime. And it's also already got all of the plaeyrs with name recognition. Welll, a lot of them, anyway. (Not that that's THAT imporrtant, as whoever is on the TV will quickly BE the people with name recognition.)

But... fun to watch? NXL is fun to watch, and if it ain't, it'll change so that it is. That's easy. So, since the league that's got the advantage on you can also be just as fun to watch, what's your angle?

Marketing campaign costs money, they've got it, you don't, they win.

 

[Chicago]

OK, really, here's the straight up truth:

You came and posted this on a web forum. You obviously have no idea what you're doing. Anyone with a good idea and a clue wouldn't have done that.