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Ash - GI Sportz

GI Sportz
Jun 14, 2006
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  • Field Size Adjustment, increasing width but not length - this is plain dumb. Making the fields squarer will means corners will be harder to make, needing faster, younger players to do so - the very kind of player that is already in short supply. Also making the fields wider will mean quicker games as players get pinched out faster, alienating the players who already think that there isn't enough field time in a modern race-to match.
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The field is being made 5 feet narrower - down to 120 feet from 125.. Although this only really serves to make the gap from the snake / widest dorito to the tapeline smaller, I doubt it will drastically shift bunker positions..
 

Exile

The Tao of Pooh
Jun 20, 2006
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Good call Ash, I never was any good at all this new-fangled metres to feet thing.

If you read the press release they will answer nearly all your questions.
And when I read what you say: "]Improved Game Format for Division 3 - This is good for the players and making the format a proper lead-in to Race-to-4, but will increase dead time on the field which could knock a tight schedule on it's ass, so I'm kind of 50/50 on this I guess."
You sound a lot like a never happy guy.
Give them a chance, I can't see why running race to 2 would be a bad idea.
I read the press release, and I'm actually a very happy bunny 95% of the time ;).
I've also been playing Millenniums for some time now and am involved in one of the UK domestic series, so I'm coming from a position of some knowledge and experience when saying that running D3 in the manner they are proposing, with my personal knowledge of how screwed up a Millennium schedule can get (were you at Paris where games were played late in the evening with 4 fairly inadequate floodlights trying to illuminate the pitch? Ask teams like Relentless how that worked out...)
IF, and this is a big IF, the Millennium invest in some sort of working PA system to call up teams to the fields a couple of matches before they are due, then I can see the system working, otherwise I'll be genuinely surprised if we don't end up in a similar situation to Paris with D3 at least once this season.

Probably because of said video. No one would believe that a certain team doesn't practice the layout in advance.
I guess this is a core problem - a lack of trust in the Millennium board to keep something like field layouts under wraps.
With the Millenniums being approx 6-8 weeks apart, then maybe a compromise of releasing the layout 2-3 weeks in advance would be something? Gives teams a chance to play the field whilst at the same time also gives a few weeks of non-specific field time that can be focussed on drills etc.? It's far from perfect, but would go some way to weaning teams off their current "play the field exclusively" regime.
 

Thib

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I read the press release, and I'm actually a very happy bunny 95% of the time ;).
I've also been playing Millenniums for some time now and am involved in one of the UK domestic series, so I'm coming from a position of some knowledge and experience when saying that running D3 in the manner they are proposing, with my personal knowledge of how screwed up a Millennium schedule can get (were you at Paris where games were played late in the evening with 4 fairly inadequate floodlights trying to illuminate the pitch? Ask teams like Relentless how that worked out...)
IF, and this is a big IF, the Millennium invest in some sort of working PA system to call up teams to the fields a couple of matches before they are due, then I can see the system working, otherwise I'll be genuinely surprised if we don't end up in a similar situation to Paris with D3 at least once this season.

I was at Paris, and seen once again a problem with running the schedule. I do understand your point of view.
But this is another problem, there is some organisation problems, this is something to work on. But I am really please with the format changing to race-to-2, I know lot of teams over the Manche which asked for it.
 

Ash - GI Sportz

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I guess this is a core problem - a lack of trust in the Millennium board to keep something like field layouts under wraps.
Its not so difficult.. There are plenty of ways around it, my personal favourite would be for the Millennium to release a whole booklet of field designs for 2011 - say, 20, 50 even 100 if necesary.. Then on the Wednesday/Thursday right before each event, have an impartially witnessed draw to decide what the layout would be for that event (that layout would then be removed from the draw for future events). This would guarantee complete transparency on the field layout saga, and still provide a vast array of field layouts for other events to use in the meantime - Millennium style/quality playable layouts, without forcing teams to play a layout to death as 'practise' for each event.
 

Exile

The Tao of Pooh
Jun 20, 2006
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Its not so difficult.. There are plenty of ways around it, my personal favourite would be for the Millennium to release a whole booklet of field designs for 2011 - say, 20, 50 even 100 if necesary.. Then on the Wednesday/Thursday right before each event, have an impartially witnessed draw to decide what the layout would be for that event (that layout would then be removed from the draw for future events). This would guarantee complete transparency on the field layout saga, and still provide a vast array of field layouts for other events to use in the meantime - Millennium style/quality playable layouts, without forcing teams to play a layout to death as 'practise' for each event.
That's bloody brilliant Ash. Somebody get this idea to the Millennium board asap and then get this man a drink.
 

Richiemonk

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Jul 24, 2005
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That's bloody brilliant Ash. Somebody get this idea to the Millennium board asap and then get this man a drink.
Seconded..but a bit late i fear for this season.


And "Praise de lord for de multi-pack!!" gettin rid of coaching! A half a lager for that decision making person!!
 

onasilverbike

I'm a country member!
If you read the release carefully, coaching is not removed, in the PSP's announcement they have 'done away with' coaching from the Pit side, which is far more easy to police, as it pit lane should only contain event staff, platers and team personnel (and IMHO, would do a great deal to address the rampant counter coaching that has appeared at Millenniums), however, the Millennium have revoked 'spotter privileges' i.e. the guy in between the netting and the crowd barrier, there is nothing in the release about crowd participation or even coaching by team members or associates from being the barrier!