Millenium format ??

[Johan]

Lets hope for 7 man....

 

[NIALL]

Psycho

Just spoke to Steve Baldwin he is awaiting account details for Kellys.

Please get someone to send the info to him at Millenniumboard@aol.com and you will get your dough.


Niall

 

[jahlad]

call me thick if you like but i cant find a copy of x-ball lite rules anywhere......i know the basic xball theory and i know that lite is a variation on it but exaclty how illudes me still......answers on a post card plz

 

[Wadidiz]

X Ball Lite™ Rules

This variation of X Ball™ has been developed for beginning player and tournaments to reduce the amount of paint for teams and increase the number of teams that can play per day per field. Scoring and times can be adjusted to each level of play or budget. This version can be played easily with stop-watches (1 for main time, one for time-outs, optional: 2 more for penalties) and does not require an expensive scoreboard.

• Coin toss (or similar) to determine sides
• One period
-15 minutes
-Stop time
• Race for points
-First team to score 5 points wins
-If tied at the end of regulation time, sudden-death point
• One team time-out per team per game
-One minute
-Must be called with 5 seconds or more on time-out clock
• All other rules of X Ball™ apply

Recommended Timing

• Maximum game time = 15 minutes + (2 minutes x 9 points) + (2 x 1 minute time-outs) = 35 minutes per game
• Schedule games every 45 minutes
• Play games in sequence as time permits
• Can finish early, cannot finish late (estimated average scoring: 6 pts, estimated average time: 15 min + 12 min +2 min = 29 min)

Alternate Times/Scoring

• First team to 7 points/20 minutes
-Timing = 20 minutes + (2 minutes x 13 points) + (2 x 1 minute time-outs) = 48 minutes
-Schedule on the hour
• First team to 3 points/10 minutes
-Timing = 10 minutes + (2 minutes x 3 points) + (2 x 1 minute time-outs) = 18 minutes
-Schedule on the half-hour
-Suitable for 3-player format
Too short for 5-player format

Alternate Penalties

• In place timed penalties (minor, major, misconducts) traditional paintball penalties can be assessed (eg. one-for-ones, two-for-ones, three-for-ones)
-Team plays short-handed for next point
Minor penalties are replaced with one-for-ones
Major penalties are replaced with two-for-ones
Misconducts are replaced with three-for-ones

 

[Steve Hancock]

I know that time outs are more reminiscent of regular sports, but I always thought that sitting out the next game (or 2 for major penalties) would make more sense in terms of the way x-ball works.

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by Steve Hancock
I know that time outs are more reminiscent of regular sports, but I always thought that sitting out the next game (or 2 for major penalties) would make more sense in terms of the way x-ball works.

Most but not all penalties are not player specific. The point is if a player commits an infraction the team pays for it--unless you are suggesting teams play down a player for one or two games? (In which case your version is more stringent than most Xball penalties.) For minors the penalty time expires if the other team scores.

The one important change that ought to be made in assessing penalties is to put the player who commited the infraction in the box instead of some random player as is done now in most instances. (Don't ask me why cus I ain't got an answer cus it makes no sense at all.)

Rulebook should be online at pspevents.com

 

[Steve Hancock]

That does sound weird, I'll go read up on it again.

 

[Chicago]

There is a reason you put a different player in the penalty box - because that's the LIVE player. You can't put the player who committed the penalty in the penalty box because they are ELIMINATED, and since they've been shot, they shouldn't be coming back into the game when the penalty is over. The player who hasn't been shot should be the one coming back into the game when the penalty is over.

This is not so much of an issue as it was in the beginning of XBall though when points still often took longer than 2 minutes, although the penalties should be reduced - 2 and 5 minutes is too long when you're looking at 32 or even 15 minutes of game time. That's a third of the match! Compare that to hockey, with 60 minutes of game time, and major penalties are still 5 minutes - that's only one 12th of the game. And 2's are only one 30th. Even at one minute, a minor penalty is twice as long as a 2 minute penalty in a 15-minute XLite match.

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by Chicago
1--There is a reason you put a different player in the penalty box - because that's the LIVE player. You can't put the player who committed the penalty in the penalty box because they are ELIMINATED, and since they've been shot, they shouldn't be coming back into the game when the penalty is over. The player who hasn't been shot should be the one coming back into the game when the penalty is over.

2--This is not so much of an issue as it was in the beginning of XBall though when points still often took longer than 2 minutes, although the penalties should be reduced - 2 and 5 minutes is too long when you're looking at 32 or even 15 minutes of game time. That's a third of the match! Compare that to hockey, with 60 minutes of game time, and major penalties are still 5 minutes - that's only one 12th of the game. And 2's are only one 30th. Even at one minute, a minor penalty is twice as long as a 2 minute penalty in a 15-minute XLite match.

1-- I quite get that part thanks, Chi-town, but I still maintain the offender should be in the box particularly when it's a carry over penalty. Otherwise you not only have refs "randomly" picking players to put in the box you may lose the services of a key player through no action of his own and as such ref discretion opens a narrow window to bias and abuse. And if you charted penalties in the NXL last year I'd be willing to bet there were certain players who pretty much never got put in the box.
That, and as the games play out given current rules almost nobody ever comes out of the box as a live player anyway.

2--in Divisional and Open play they were dropped to 4 minutes last year. Remained 5 minutes in NXL only.

While they're making changes the impact of various infractions ought to be re-evaluated across the board. Personally I'd like to see some one minute penalties and more precision defining the playing on infraction. By adding a 1 minute and a 3 minute to the mix and saving the 5 minute (or 4 as the case may be) and the 10 minute for egregious cases only it would give the refs more options as now they tend to call certain penalties too harshly or not harshly enough depending on temprament and the fact the only option is a 2 minute or a 5 minute.
Adding 1 minute penalties would see more players coming out of the box during a point which otherwise rarely happens and the 3 minute could be a carry over penalty regardless of who scored the subsequent point giving it more impact.

 

[Chicago]

Yeah, I didn't mean to necessarily ENDORSE the reasoning (although I see my post certainly reads that way), but, that's what the reasoning behind the rule was. I agree in practice as the game has changed over the past 3 years the practical basis for the rule doesn't actually occur in matches much anymore.