Memories

[mozza]

Ged green is the one reason i am still working in this sport he sold me my first tube of paint my first set of bushlan camo and my first gun and got me into marshalling and even when i broke my leg and had a long lay off i was always made welcome at the site and the offices and i can honestly say if ged ever leaves the site and the industry it will be a very sad day for paintball indeed . I also think Ged should get some sort of award for his input and vision to this great sport of ours and long may it continue

 

[The Comedian]

I saw Ged a few weeks ago at the CPPS warmup event, so perhaps Rich has had the benefit of his advice.

 

[TheGurkha]

I saw Ged a few weeks ago at the CPPS warmup event, so perhaps Rich has had the benefit of his advice.

Ged has nothing to do with the CPPS. H does have a day off work, occasionally.

 

[The Comedian]

Perhaps not, but if Ged used his day off to come down to an event I had put on, I would certainly use the opportunity to get his advice.

 

[JUNIOR BROWN]

Its funny that I read this post now… A few days after the first USPL event in Huntington Beach, and I have to say I did take a few minutes out on Saturday and just sat on that same walkway you talked about Pete, thinking how that 2003 event you took me to changed my life so much! It was a new world for me and a world I wanted to be apart of. Thanks big guy!

But anyway that’s not why I’m posting...

It would be good to see Ged and the guys back in the US and I was very happy this Saturday when I noticed Ged in HB for the USPL!

Now who wants to tell me why he was at the event? Lol Just on a vacation!!! Lets hope not…

 

[TheGurkha]

Its funny that I read this post now… A few days after the first USPL event in Huntington Beach, and I have to say I did take a few minutes out on Saturday and just sat on that same walkway you talked about Pete, thinking how that 2003 event you took me to changed my life so much! It was a new world for me and a world I wanted to be apart of. Thanks big guy!

But anyway that’s not why I’m posting...

It would be good to see Ged and the guys back in the US and I was very happy this Saturday when I noticed Ged in HB for the USPL!

Now who wants to tell me why he was at the event? Lol Just on a vacation!!! Lets hope not…

He was picking me up a T-Shirt!

I am still slightly unsure of why he left us for a weekend, i'm surprised NPF remembers how to function without him! Maybe we'll see a new Project in the future. He says he enjoyed it though!

 

[cookie_834]

what makes me sad about this post is how the same thing seems to repeat itself continually

i havnt played for a while now but before i got out i really did think that the ethics behind paintball are about the same as a prison

you got the big man bumming the bitch, the ones in the corner not helping just watching and the ones who ignore it and think its going to go away

why? personal gain...........

the 2-3 years i spent playing started off as a happy go lucky young kid who loved it but couldnt afford it as much as he wanted. the deeper you go in the more you realise the people at the top are in it for themselves. they dont seem to care anymore. you get better but the attitudes from the supporting sponsors are the same.....dont win dont get nowt. do we care? we got pros out there selling our stuff

what happened to paintball is that it went from a hobby and turned into a sport and progressed into a buisness. people lost faith, goodwill and general morals. they realsied that things were becoming tight. the increase in oil prices made butts clench around the paint market.

in its place came selfishness, two-faced liars and everyone out to make it for themselves

if you aint asking for something free.....you aint a baller...........

take an event run by bully (i think it may have been his last ever, up on j20? but don't quote me)

a refs wife had just died suddenly with no reason, and he was giving all proceeds and running costs to him so he could spend time at home and not worry finacially. because of this there were no refs. he was asking players to ref.

thus the moaning and bitching started....................no one thought about the poor widower. yes this is a small local event but then move on to malaga

millenium had a poor season last year. alot of negative feedback and a hell of alot of abusive. deserve it or not they tried to change things. new organising, new contracts, new equipment.

things went a bit pear shaped and thus............the moaning starts again.......

apparently you dont get merits for effort these days?


paintball didnt move too fast, it didnt make tatical errors, it still has a real chance

what it doesnt have is a MAJORITY of good, honest players and people running it

and it is obvious. i mean on this forum we are constantly seeing people revealing """the truth"""

my arse.....

what we are seeing is what is told to us! "THE MILLENIUM SUCKS COS I HEARD THEY SPENT ALL THE MONEY ON TRIPS TO CUBA!!!!"

true stories guys, i heard it from a very reliable source

what we need to do is go back to the days when people were willing to go to HB and play in the sand.............

they did it cos it made them happy!!! not cos they were there to win and look good and get maybe a few pennies here and there. "But my marker might get sand it..... "

boo-fricking-hoo..............you might also have a good time.........dip****

bring back the love and you will bring back the game

 

[cookie_834]

oh and i know this thread is old but

a) it was sticky and so at the top

b) i havnt been on here for a while and found it a very intresting post from the big man

and 3) .....yes i said 3 and not c..............come on you sarcastic bugger, say it "wait to bring up a dead thread........."

it will very much prove my point by you saying it........

 

[Matski]

Firstly, the Green brothers have done amazing things for paintball. Not only do they have great charisma, they are great businessmen and have helped to push paintball forward a great deal. If TV didn't work and they were involved, you can safely say it was given the very best shot.

cookie - it's sometimes hard to be sure of the points you're making due to your......... writing style......, but...

I hope you are talking in the 3rd person when you say "if you aint asking for something free.....you aint a baller..........." because that is one of the main problems that has chewed away at paintball; The tournament side of the game has progressed to a level whereby only young, fit players are the best - but they have no spending power. The fat older guys with the fatter wallets have been pushed out and what you have left is the whining, mooching, wannabes with empty pockets. That's just how the "sport" side of the game has progressed, we're almost victims of our own success in a way.

Guys like the Green brothers have done a huge amount for paintball, but money has to be made for growth to continue. If you ask me, even though your heart may be in the right place, people like you have got it wrong. Players often expect too much for far too little - they don't expect to have to train hard but want to win and they don't expect to pay much/pay anything but expect everything in return. Favours and hugs do not pay bills.

Whether you like it or not, paintball has always and will always be driven by business - like pretty much everything else in life. People have to be able to make money for you to continue to enjoy paintball and paintballers have to realise that if they expect returns they need to work for them and if they expect stuff, they need to pay for it. The growth of the market by paying customers will keep paintball on track, not the love.

 

[Al Woods]

Love this hazy retrospective ****!!

I've been out of balling really since 05. Still kinda follow it and still love it, just moved on now and can't put in the time...which, looking back is kinda where the buck stops for me but I'll get back to that in a min. Me and my boy Latham always get giddy when we chat about ball as we still have a HUGE soft spot for it as it is paintball that made me and all my close buds super happy between 2000 and 05 anyway. We were competitive and were respected (ish) but never quite got to where we really wanted to be. Why? Where we good enough? Damn straight we were but, this is where I bring back the time thing, we just couldn't commit the time and money that was needed to get there, so we didn't. Paintball is awesome and I really wish I could still play, problem being is that when I play I want to compete and when you know you as a player can't commit what is needed to be up there but know you have the skills to do it, it kinda hurts, or hurt, a bit.

Thing is, the UK ball scene was always in its own bubble with no real long term plan. Think about it, Ged and co. made some awesome ground up with Pure Promotions and took things 10 levels higher, which was great for paintball and for them as a business, but, they also saw that trying to do it in the UK first at that level would be totally pointless, so they went stateside. Tourney balling will always be a tiny fringe sport in this country and to make a huge impact on the sport as a whole can't be done here. What needed to happen was all the smaller companies to take notes, make changes and lift the smaller side of things up a notch but also knowing that it would only ever be a support act to keep us in touch. As business ideas go that doesn't sound too promising does it, so as much as was attempted over here it just wouldn't have been enough so the decline would have begun pretty quickly I would have thought.

Not sure what I'm trying to say here actually, I think something along the lines of going back to the roots a bit and sorting our own backyard out first. Do it for the right reasons, not because you think you'll be a superstar and paid monies to play (although that did happen). Paintball is paintball, a small fringe sport that we f'kin love(d) and big business to some but just because some people make good livings out of it as businessmen, doesn't mean we as players should expect the same ****. Maybe because everyone kinda knows everyone and is exposed to the high levels of industry peeps regularly that its hard to make the divide sometimes. Get yer money out, play some ball and don't expect to be on MTV cribs and it should all be alright.

I watched PUSH again last night for the first time in ages. Anyone that has to ask what that is needs to sit down, have a minute with themselves then buy it online. Its 9 years old and still sums up what paintball is all about for me.

Anyways, I'll be ripping Blackpool up this weekend...in my mind anyways, and enjoying every minute of it.