Marker technology

[philfull]

on the outside yes.



the only person being short sighted here is you. the improvements to the marker and board is not just a bigger screen. its a whole new board. redesigned with greater proccessing capabilities etc. making it extremely religable and opening up future advances in technology to be added with ease. its now a platform for future improvements.

im still unsure why people are judging the ego 10 by its looks. oh i forgot......these make you a better player

i wasnt commenting on the tech of the board simply eclipse's advert which states a bigger screen as one of the improvements.

i was taken in by the hype built up by rumours and guessing about what the 10 would be. until i have shot one of these guns i wont comment fully. i like egos as a platform and the only way they could really improve them is in the cycling of the gun, to reduce the kick and improve accuracy. if they have succeeded then the gun will be awesome.

you say the board is more reliable? what reliability issues were there in the old board? and how do people know if its only been out a week.

jumping on people for making an observation on advertising strategy is a little harsh dont you think?

 

[timmyh007]

i think you have it there

AGD peaked with the level 10 anti chop and their X valve,but no two mags look the same

take the ion and the tippmann while they may not be be the very best markers themselves,you can have 1 tippman that looks like an AK and another that looks like an MP5. 1 ion can have a deadly wind body and another something more tactical, both of them can swap out pretty much every single component as per users desire, but bare bones they are still the same marker.

to be honest i think those egos and eteks that every second person has are dog ugly to look at but they are great markers apparently,so why not take them and other markers like dye and bob long and all the very high end types and redesign their internals and tech to fit into an ion type body that can then be chopped and changed till your hearts content??

alot of people hate the ion but i think its awesome simply for the fact that if you have a picture of your perfect maker in your head somewhere out there, there is an ion mod that can make that dream marker happen.

not sure how it would work with licenses and what not but they could even generate more cash but making them to fit inside a tippy, im sure those woods ballers would love the thought of shooting a tippmann bodied ego,

but like you say you need something that stands out and one ego looked pretty much like the next one no matter how its anodized

Egos ...dog ugly to look at???
Ions....simply awesome???

 

[smelly_bandit]

Egos ...dog ugly to look at???
Ions....simply awesome???

quell the horror but yes

ok maybe dog ugly was a bit harsh,but they are common as muck since every man and his dog has one, but that is just my taste i don't like the look of them i am certain they are the best markers i just don't like how they look,however if i was playing in tournaments and competitions then i would get an ego purely for the performance they deliver and to be able to compete

i am not talking about the ion as a marker forget its shoddy tech, im talking about the ability to make it look anyway you want.

don't like the body?? change it
trigger?? swap it

its an awesome concept to be able to create your own custom marker

you buy an ego 10 for £850, all you get is an ego 10 same as the next bloke same as the next bloke, the only thing that differs is the colour

you buy a bog standard ion for £170 throw £500 at it change out everything and you can create something that can give roughly the same performance as a high end marker but can be a unique job, because instead of five new colours, you have 100s of combos of colour and setup, you chose what it looks like

of course it wont ever have the same level of performance as an ego because at its heart lies an ion,but if you could somehow take the quality of the ego out and give it the ability to customize its looks like the ion or the automag it is a great concept.

 

[John C]

quell the horror but yes

ok maybe dog ugly was a bit harsh,but they are common as muck since every man and his dog has one, but that is just my taste i don't like the look of them i am certain they are the best markers i just don't like how they look,however if i was playing in tournaments and competitions then i would get an ego purely for the performance they deliver and to be able to compete

i am not talking about the ion as a marker forget its shoddy tech, im talking about the ability to make it look anyway you want.

don't like the body?? change it
trigger?? swap it

its an awesome concept to be able to create your own custom marker

you buy an ego 10 for £850, all you get is an ego 10 same as the next bloke same as the next bloke, the only thing that differs is the colour

you buy a bog standard ion for £170 throw £500 at it change out everything and you can create something that can give roughly the same performance as a high end marker but can be a unique job, because instead of five new colours, you have 100s of combos of colour and setup, you chose what it looks like

of course it wont ever have the same level of performance as an ego because at its heart lies an ion,but if you could somehow take the quality of the ego out and give it the ability to customize its looks like the ion or the automag it is a great concept.

I think your reasons for not liking the ego are quite weak. You cant say something is bad because its popular...
If the stock parts on the ego were as bad as they are on some other guns, you'd see a lot more aftermarket parts and therefore a lot more customisation options.


Also your last paragraph differs from my experiences.
Id say an Ion with the right upgrades is superior to any ego.
There is an ion at the heart of many high end guns including the droid, the chrome and the geo.

 

[smelly_bandit]

I think your reasons for not liking the ego are quite weak. You cant say something is bad because its popular...
If the stock parts on the ego were as bad as they are on some other guns, you'd see a lot more aftermarket parts and therefore a lot more customisation options.


Also your last paragraph differs from my experiences.
Id say an Ion with the right upgrades is superior to any ego.
There is an ion at the heart of many high end guns including the droid, the chrome and the geo.

im not slating its performance, im sure its up there with the best and im not saying its bad either im just saying that i personally think its a boring looking marker they all look the same with the exception of different anodizing.

from your experience you know that you can take a bog standard ion and up it to the same and higher level of performance to an ego for a hell of a lot less, and no one will know they are about to get ripped up or what your running

you see an ego or etek and you know its specs and what its capable of and that a wall of paint is inbound,i just like the ion for the fact that it can be boosted to deliver the performance and still look unique

 

[Soreen]

The entire thing will be made out of twigs, mud, spit and hair.

 

[Missy-Q]

This 'smelly bandit' guy is right.

The issue with the Ego 10 is that for all intents and practical purposes its the same as the last 2 guns. It DOES look like pretty much everyone has the same gun these days, and once everyone has something, it ceases to be cool.
The advancements in internal technology, while I'm sure they are there, mean nothing to the man in the street, or the player on the field, once the game begins. It is normal, once companies have exhausted performance upgrades, for them to modify electronics and fix common fail-points. These may make the gun more robust, and less prone to epidemic issues (hence 'better'), but they don't give the end user anything tangible as a feature.
I'm not sure that the Ion can be described as a better gun, but it is certainly possible to take it and make it look completely different, and somewhat individual.

Remember guys, it doesn't make you disloyal, or un-british, if you don't blindly flatter the product you choose to use. I get the impression there were a few fan-boys actually fainting when stinky-guy dropped his post. I could hear the sharp intakes of breath from across the ether...

 

[smelly_bandit]

yeah i got the feeling i was about to be lynched by a pitchfork and torch bearing mob

in all honesty i have no working knowledge of them and thats why i wont slate their performance,but i understand that the eteks, egos,dyes and bob longs are all top of the range markers make no mistake, all the top players use them and so many people have testified to their reliability,accuracy and overall quality.

forget performance, the ion has all of these beat purely on its customization potential

paint ball is a vain luxury sport, everyone wants to stand out from the crowd, we all like seeing out the corner of our eyes (while playing it cool and pretending we dont) people pointing at and talking about our unique looking marker or that we have the latest bit of kit.

thats why not all, but alot of players buy an ego or a dye and sell it later on when the new one comes out, because they want to be for that guy who stands out, in the short period of time before everyone else follows suit and they become just another one of the crowd.

im not trying to start some aggro but realistically, in performance terms how much better is the ego 10 to the 9?? and how much better with the 11 be to the 10??

 

[jon.s]

personally i disagree with paintball being a vain sport i do however believe
there is a fraction of said look at me boys.
i bought an ego 8 factory second after the ego 9 was launched on the basis that no marker in that price range came close in the reviews and the ego 9 wasnt worth £200 more. Anyone looking for a major change between egos are looking at it wrong they bought the geo out as the major change .
The ion is a good marker after upgrades but why spend the money upgrading to the same value as a high end marker which is built to a standard that exceeds third party add on testing.


As for the original thread question i think that in 5 years most high markers will have carbon fibre fusion , fully functional diagnostic plug ,
in built reg without macroline, with board and circuits getting smaller room in the grip could be used for this leaving room for a fully custom built front grip. paint guidance barrels which are already on the market .


just my thoughts

 

[Jonny 03]

personally i disagree with paintball being a vain sport i do however believe
there is a fraction of said look at me boys.

You're in the minority of players then, I love getting noticed (although it's usually for the wrong reasons) and every baller I've ever come across loves the camera. Most of the lads I've trained with are chasing the latest craze, from cooking your gat to HK. In what other sport would they coin a phrase that could compare (at least in its meaning) to Mask or Gun Whore?

I still reckon the E-Volt was something they could of and should of pushed but it's one of those projects that was just a little ahead of the tech, and the money. 5 years? Well rather than 4 colours it'll be 8 and they might introduce space for a third trigger finger...

In all seriousness though, this here is the future. It's lighter than every gat out there, keeps up with every modern tournament cap and has just one moving part internally making for easy operation...

http://www.vintagerex.com/pics/gunpics/NSG - National Survival Games/Splatmaster/splatmaster1.jpg