madrid marchalling

[Nick Brockdorff]

I disagree

The reffing teams in Madrid were TOLD to only bring 8 refs - even if they were prepared to bring 8.... so naturally they should not be deducted points, because they are entirely without responsibility for what happend.

The MS is not to be blamed in the instance you refer to - which is why it is different.

Giving all the reffing teams 200 points will not be fair to the majority of teams that do not ref.... especially with the division being capped at the end of the season.

Nick

 

[Mark Toye-Nexus]

Nick

I think you are getting confused, isnt there a prescribed number of refs that each team MUST bring to qualify for points?

I think that there is - and its 8.

Any team that agreed to carry out their mashalling duties with the prescribed number and then fell short through reasons outside of the MS control deserve to be deducted points.

Teams at Madrid attended with less than 8 because of intervention by the MS - aka Pedro. The fault lies with the organiser, not the team. They get 200 points, period.

Anyone who thinks differently is applying a warped sense of justice.

 

[jotajotaZ]

Teams at Madrid attended with less than 8 because of intervention by the MS - aka Pedro. The fault lies with the organiser, not the team. They get 200 points, period.

Anyone who thinks differently is applying a warped sense of justice.

The situation as it stands is fair for the teams that marshalled Madrid but not exactly fair for the other teams. It's true that you need to comply with what you're asked for and that if you don't you get penalized. That makes sense. Teams in Madrid did comply, they deserve no penalty.

However, if I'm not mistaken, teams take care of their marshall's expenses (not sure if the whole expenses or just a bit of them). This being the case, some teams are getting 200 points for a smaller expenditure than others (having to move fewer refs). This is unfair for the teams that had to pay for the moving of 8 marshalls.

The thing is you can't get fairness out of a fscked up situation like this. There would have not been any problem if the teams got cash instead of points, but that's expensive, isn't it?

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Nick

I think you are getting confused, isnt there a prescribed number of refs that each team MUST bring to qualify for points?

I think that there is - and its 8.

Any team that agreed to carry out their mashalling duties with the prescribed number and then fell short through reasons outside of the MS control deserve to be deducted points.

Teams at Madrid attended with less than 8 because of intervention by the MS - aka Pedro. The fault lies with the organiser, not the team. They get 200 points, period.

Anyone who thinks differently is applying a warped sense of justice.

Don't think I'm confused Mark - think I wrote exactly the same as you, just in another way

However, apparently one team got less than 200 in Madrid, which must then be because of poor performance by the 4 refs that attended.

Reffing points are still not ONLY based on attendance, but also performance, as seen by the ultimate Ulrich - which is like it should be.

Nick

 

[Steve Hancock]

Teams shouldn't be reffing anyway.

Can you imagine Chelsea Vs. Man U.... reffed by Liverpool.

 

[Mark Toye-Nexus]

Teams shouldn't be reffing anyway.

Can you imagine Chelsea Vs. Man U.... reffed by Liverpool.

I would imagine that most refs are ex players, and almost certainly Sunday Leaguers.

I see your point but in Paintball's infancy as we are I dont think there are any alternatives - certainly dont know many people willing to travel to each event to be judges.

The bottom line is that the sport is driven by participants.

 

[Johan]

thanks all for your replies!

 

[MissyQ]

you're welcome, you big gay Dutchman. If only you were into women, I would be flying you to Harlem as my personal trainer (I still have to reach that magic 295lb's).

 

[Oli HPG]

We came with 7 Reffs as one could not make it and one of our guys slipped on them ****ty stairs and bashed his knee rather badly and was unable to do anything for 2 days but still "crawled" onto the fields for the Sunday.

This MS bull**** really gets my back hair up. What is their problem...we are PAYING customers.

This is my personal opinion...Pedro should NOT host another MS event.

The points need to be restored and made equal accross the board, the MS board is losing a bit more than just face here.

Why bother playing MS? Next time I invited my guys over for a bbq and we burn each £500...seems more rational than to play MS.

I am not bothered about us losing the points in Marseille. If it would have been applied accross the board through out the season. Stop changing stuff all the time and finally try to stand to your own poxy rule book.

 

[MissyQ]

Burn it? Wouldn't it be better to spend $500 each on booze and hookers? That way at least your BBQ would be fun....