I disagree. I find that with fewer games, which mean more, many teams get so conservative that games just grind along. Having fewer games will make them less interesting to watch, unless you have vested interest in the outcome of one game.
Let's do 8 games instead of 10!
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Point is,we have to drive many miles to take part,spending lots of money on the way,I do think that we,the paying customer should be asked what we think.
Personally,I like the idea of shorter game times as long as the Field size is downgraded to match,(which,I understand,will be the case).
Im not to keen on the price increase,that makes for a very expensive 8 games.
I dont mind paying more money for Marshalling,but paying more for prize money doesnt appeal to me.
I suppose if we had a REALISTIC chance of winning,I might have a different angle on that point,but as it stands,the same few Teams are going to benifit from this at the expense of everyone.
Id love to know by how much the prize money is going to increase?
Would winning now cover the expense of taking part?Thatd be new!
The current ratio of ten games is, in relation to the expense of taking part not enough,just because the Teams have accepted it in the past,doesnt mean that they will accept a drop down to 8 shorter games for more money without resistance.
Well,im off to join the EPA,I do hope that the MS Comittee take the players opinions into account before making their final decision,do you think they will??
Personally,I like the idea of shorter game times as long as the Field size is downgraded to match,(which,I understand,will be the case).
Im not to keen on the price increase,that makes for a very expensive 8 games.
I dont mind paying more money for Marshalling,but paying more for prize money doesnt appeal to me.
I suppose if we had a REALISTIC chance of winning,I might have a different angle on that point,but as it stands,the same few Teams are going to benifit from this at the expense of everyone.
Id love to know by how much the prize money is going to increase?
Would winning now cover the expense of taking part?Thatd be new!
The current ratio of ten games is, in relation to the expense of taking part not enough,just because the Teams have accepted it in the past,doesnt mean that they will accept a drop down to 8 shorter games for more money without resistance.
Well,im off to join the EPA,I do hope that the MS Comittee take the players opinions into account before making their final decision,do you think they will??
I have to confess that Baca and I have contrived a reverse-psychology scheme to increase the enrollment of EPA.
If we don't get organized anything is possible!
Steve
If we don't get organized anything is possible!
Steve
People are arguing that less preliminary games and shorter game time makes more intresting to WATCH??
I can speak only for myself, but I like to PLAY paintball, not watch it from sidelines...
Besides now this "Premium League" is the thing to watch, right?
So don´t make us humble divisionians pay more to get Dyny-boys more prize money.
We come over just to play and play more, thanks.
I can speak only for myself, but I like to PLAY paintball, not watch it from sidelines...
Besides now this "Premium League" is the thing to watch, right?
So don´t make us humble divisionians pay more to get Dyny-boys more prize money.
We come over just to play and play more, thanks.
This whole series is balancing act of Business, The Public and the Player. In an ideal world there would be a perfect synergy and the whole gravy train could pull in the same direction. Unfortunately this is not happening at an an amazingly fast pace.
If the game time is reduced to 7 minutes it will cost each an every player a minimum of £10 just to step on the field. Now I play the game for fun, but at £10 a game, beware any marshal that pulls me out early for a dubious hit. We need to remember the needs of the players, expensive sport - great events, but let's still try and get some sort of value for money. When the costs hit a minimum of a £1 a minute and you haven't shot a ball you've got to be close, or maybe just over the limit
The events have to make money, I for one do not begrudge a profit but let's cater for the here and now, ie the players and worry about the possible future spectators later. Has anyone noticed the number of young kids playing these days, any extra cost is going to discourage new players from signing up for the next events.
Just my 2 pence worth
If the game time is reduced to 7 minutes it will cost each an every player a minimum of £10 just to step on the field. Now I play the game for fun, but at £10 a game, beware any marshal that pulls me out early for a dubious hit. We need to remember the needs of the players, expensive sport - great events, but let's still try and get some sort of value for money. When the costs hit a minimum of a £1 a minute and you haven't shot a ball you've got to be close, or maybe just over the limit
The events have to make money, I for one do not begrudge a profit but let's cater for the here and now, ie the players and worry about the possible future spectators later. Has anyone noticed the number of young kids playing these days, any extra cost is going to discourage new players from signing up for the next events.
Just my 2 pence worth
Some would argue that the business of the Millennium Series is in the fact that it's the biggest and best set of events in Europe. The value is in the quality.
If you're after more play time, then there's dozens of local events that will give you better 'value'
If you want to play with the big boys, then the Millenniums are where it's at.
Do you keep track of how much it cost you when you shoot your paint too.
2p 4p 6p 8p ... on his hopper judge!
another newbie opinion :
Travelling across europe to play only 8 preliminaries games sounds really bad ... if you do the cost per games with everything considered (travel, food,entry fees) it will be some high € number that I don't want to think about . (I also don't do the math for 10 games..hehehe..should be also scary but we are all addicted to this sport right? )
10 games is a fair number. 5 per day already pacifies the players wild spirits
And BTW, some people are forgetting that most 10 mins games are usually concluded on the 5th to 7th min, unless the game is really stalled . Another thing is that the paint consumption is not going to decrease. Trust me. Here in Portugal increased significantly for the winning teams. You simply have to shoot more to move faster
Cheers
JAC
:Travelling across europe to play only 8 preliminaries games sounds really bad ... if you do the cost per games with everything considered (travel, food,entry fees) it will be some high € number that I don't want to think about . (I also don't do the math for 10 games..hehehe..should be also scary but we are all addicted to this sport right?
)10 games is a fair number. 5 per day already pacifies the players wild spirits
And BTW, some people are forgetting that most 10 mins games are usually concluded on the 5th to 7th min, unless the game is really stalled . Another thing is that the paint consumption is not going to decrease. Trust me. Here in Portugal increased significantly for the winning teams. You simply have to shoot more to move faster
Cheers
JAC
Is that a problem?
If I pay 1200€ for entry the 35€/player card thingy, have to use event exclusive paint AND have to end up with less games in a shorter time on a smaller field then I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO BITCH!
I think millennium teams are not spoiled, they are reaching the limits of their tolerance/budget there! Please someone explain me that HOW the new changes will benefit the participants? So far it looks to me that the benefits are one the organizers side and negative effects are on the teams side.
Less games to easen reffing? Well if the reffing teams treated with free hotel and food (hats off) AND want the juicy points then they have to work for it sorry. Its a decision not a mandatory fact that a team has to Ref if they take it they take it! I think the improvement would be to help them in their work not to cut it down.
Cheers
>>>Do you keep track of how much it cost you when you shoot your paint too. 2p 4p 6p 8p ... on his hopper judge!<<
the 2p per ball is that a BYO or the EventPaintOnly price ??
the 2p per ball is that a BYO or the EventPaintOnly price ??
Like I said, I don't see Millennium going to 8 games for most of the classes. For the Premier league, I expect a different arrangement, I don't know.
But let's be thankful that for less money we get more games compared with NPPL or PSP. They both have 8 prelim games and NPPL Super 7 charges $1550 for amateur compared with €1200 for Millennium. Interestingly I have never heard anyone complain about PSP and NPPL having too few games. I guess they don't regard their tournaments as practice.
Steve