lard is pure carbs !!

[Tyger]

OT : Joel Hodgeson

Originally posted by Baca Loco
you are talking about THE Joel Hodgeson, right?

MST3K maven, Joel. Yes. Half the world don't get the refrences, half the states don't get the rest. You gotta live here to get most of his refrences to "Riding the Ducks".

Keep circulating the tapes.

-Tyger

 

[John Molloy]

Re: that's as maybe

Originally posted by Robbo


I was under the impression that lard was a fat and not a carb, correct me If I'm wrong !!!

Based on the information I have ( and I am no Biologist ) Carb or CarboHydrate are fats of various types and do indeed fall into this catagory. basically fats are long chain molecules comprised of Carbon with hydrogen atoms hanging off them. Sugers such as Glucose are short versions of the same.


And I am an Analytical Chemist currently testing tooth paste

HEEEEEELP

C2H5OH the chemical of life

 

[jynxfactor]

You are very right, you are not a biologist.

Now, fat is not a carb, a carb (carbohydrate) is considered a complex sugar molecule.

One the scale of things.

Protein: building blocks of the body

Simple sugar (gucose, fructos): fast short lived energy burst

Complex sugar i.e. carbohydrates (dextros, startch): middle of the road energy, mild and smooth, good for endurance athleats and long tournys

Fats i.e. lipids (lard, bigmacs and frenchfries): saturated or not, fats, a slow burning long lived energy energy! Pound for pound fat will give you twice the energy of any other food. The down side is that you need to get your body reved up to take advantage of this. this means that you need a balanced diet. You need simple sugars to effectively use carbs, and you need carbs to get the fats to metabilize correctly to give you their energy!

 

[Robbo]

Re: Re: that's as maybe

Originally posted by John Molloy


Based on the information I have ( and I am no Biologist ) Carb or CarboHydrate are fats of various types and do indeed fall into this catagory. basically fats are long chain molecules comprised of Carbon with hydrogen atoms hanging off them. Sugers such as Glucose are short versions of the same.
And I am an Analytical Chemist currently testing tooth paste
HEEEEEELP

C2H5OH the chemical of life

John, dunno what analytical chemistry course you attended but I have never come across any institution describing 'Lard' as a carbohydrate.
And John, you are right about one thing though....you ain't no biologist !!
Robbo

 

[John Molloy]

One question to both of you , what is "fat" or "lard" made of? complex or not they are basically long chains of carbon atoms with hydrogen atoms (along with other complexes on the chain agreed) but that is the definition of carbohydrate (hydrated carbon).....

 

[John Molloy]

Jynxfactor is partly correct in that the chain of molecules goes sugers-starches but that continues to fats and lipids as the body converts the previous into the latter for storage they are all part of the same family of organic chemicals made of the same stuff and used for the same stuff (but as Jynx pointed out in differant ways) so to finish sorry Robbo you are incorrect on this one.

 

[Robbo]

Originally posted by John Molloy
One question to both of you , what is "fat" or "lard" made of? complex or not they are basically long chains of carbon atoms with hydrogen atoms (along with other complexes on the chain agreed) but that is the definition of carbohydrate (hydrated carbon).....

John, I think you'll find that is not actually the definition of a carb as it has to have oxygen as part of its molecular structure.
A Hydrate is oxygen and hydrogen and has the ability (more importantly) to combine with water and therefore a carbo-hydrate is a long chain molecule (obvioulsy including carbon) able to do just that.

A fat is not the same thing, this is best defined as an ester of glycerol and acid and in organic chemistry, fat (Lipid) is a term that has been used to describe natural substances which are soluble in hydrocarbons and insoluble in water (not only fats but waxes, natural hydrocarbons). Biochemists reserve the term for natural compounds that yield fatty acids upon hydrolysis.
Since you started getting technical !!!
Robbo

 

[Robbo]

Originally posted by John Molloy
Jynxfactor is partly correct in that the chain of molecules goes sugers-starches but that continues to fats and lipids as the body converts the previous into the latter for storage they are all part of the same family of organic chemicals made of the same stuff and used for the same stuff (but as Jynx pointed out in differant ways) so to finish sorry Robbo you are incorrect on this one.

John, fat (lard, whatever you wanna call it) is not a carbohydrate !!!!!
The fact that the body uses fat and carbs for ultimately the same thing (energy storage) does not mean they can be similarly classified !!!!
Live with it duuuuude !!!
Sorry
Robbo

 

[TJ 2]

My bad

Robo's right - I should said 'there are good energy sources an' bad ones, get which lars is'...

See, I am fallible.

 

[Robbo]

My bad

Originally posted by TJ 2
Robo's right - I should said 'there are good energy sources an' bad ones, get which lars is'...
See, I am fallible.

BLOODY HELL !!!!!!!!!

I am gonna get this post, print it out and FRAME IT for posterity.

It will be hung alongside my World Cup winning medals and be cherished with equal affection.......ahhhhhhhh.....

Robo (as he calls me)