As many of you may have guessed, the pro scene as it was going, especially in the US was sickening me.
I tried a lone stand against designer cheat guns and for the most part I was either laughed at or not believed, either way it mattered not.
What mattered to me was the degradation of any type ethics within our sport and this seemed to be fuelled by an industry hellbent on perpetuating these problems whilst paying only lip service to issues such as fair play and safety.
But this post ain't about them, it's about us, us as players.
Now I weren't there in OC to see this game go down but I have heard enough and seen enough vid to be pretty sure Joy were robbed in part by totally inept judging or worse, deliberate and willful misjudging.
We cannot prove the latter - only speculate as to its relevance here.
My point is this, while we all point fingers at judges and the spontaneous cheating nature of pro players, I am more sickened by the following :-
If you were to ask Magued, 'how do you guys get on with the likes of Ryan and Alex and the rest of the Dynabots'?
He would answer, 'Yeh real cool, we respect them and they respect us', it would be something along those lines and if you were to ask the self same question to the Dynabots re the Joy guys, a similar response would be forthcoming.
No real surprises there....
Well, you may not be surpised but for me, it smacks of duplicity and dishonour.
If I respected a bunch of guys, the last thing I would wanna do is steal a title from them when I knew in my heart of hearts we had cheated to achieve that win.
I can understand (not advocate) spontaneous violations, 'playing on' in the heat of the moment etc but what I cannot understand is when the game is done, the decisions been made and the post game reflections begin.
It seems obvious Joy were robbed, the Dynasty guys know that better than most, I don't give a sh!t what Perez did or didn't do here because what's done is done and I just wonder how those guys on Dynasty can ever look the Joy guys in the eyes again and smile and shake their hands.
I ran it through in my head if I would have done the same as the Dynasty guys if i had been in their place, would I have accepted that first place knowing we had cheated the hell out of our alleged respected friends???
I would like to say I wouldn't have done but I think what goes thru most pros minds now is, 'well they would do the same to me and so fukk 'em I am gonna grab that trophy'.
We are breeding two faced hypocrites in paintball who would smile in your face and yet stab you in the back in a heartbeat.
There is no honour here, no working ethics, no real respect other than a maniacal desire to win that overrules virtues such as I have mentioned.
Joy were robbed, of that there is little doubt but if you read all this thread it would have you believe the judges were pivotal in the way this game went, and of course the Dynasty players who shot without armbands on etc but........these were decisions all made in the heat of the moment.
Isn't the real injustice here the fact that after the dust had settled and people have had time to reflect, isn't the real injustice a bunch of guys who have been awarded first place realising they didn't deserve it then going on to accept that prize.....and no doubt shake the hands of the second placed team on the podium whilst smiling???
Does that sicken anybody else's gut apart from mine??
When I sold Nexus, I thought I would miss being involved in the pro scene Stateside ......maybe I ain't so rueful....
I tried a lone stand against designer cheat guns and for the most part I was either laughed at or not believed, either way it mattered not.
What mattered to me was the degradation of any type ethics within our sport and this seemed to be fuelled by an industry hellbent on perpetuating these problems whilst paying only lip service to issues such as fair play and safety.
But this post ain't about them, it's about us, us as players.
Now I weren't there in OC to see this game go down but I have heard enough and seen enough vid to be pretty sure Joy were robbed in part by totally inept judging or worse, deliberate and willful misjudging.
We cannot prove the latter - only speculate as to its relevance here.
My point is this, while we all point fingers at judges and the spontaneous cheating nature of pro players, I am more sickened by the following :-
If you were to ask Magued, 'how do you guys get on with the likes of Ryan and Alex and the rest of the Dynabots'?
He would answer, 'Yeh real cool, we respect them and they respect us', it would be something along those lines and if you were to ask the self same question to the Dynabots re the Joy guys, a similar response would be forthcoming.
No real surprises there....
Well, you may not be surpised but for me, it smacks of duplicity and dishonour.
If I respected a bunch of guys, the last thing I would wanna do is steal a title from them when I knew in my heart of hearts we had cheated to achieve that win.
I can understand (not advocate) spontaneous violations, 'playing on' in the heat of the moment etc but what I cannot understand is when the game is done, the decisions been made and the post game reflections begin.
It seems obvious Joy were robbed, the Dynasty guys know that better than most, I don't give a sh!t what Perez did or didn't do here because what's done is done and I just wonder how those guys on Dynasty can ever look the Joy guys in the eyes again and smile and shake their hands.
I ran it through in my head if I would have done the same as the Dynasty guys if i had been in their place, would I have accepted that first place knowing we had cheated the hell out of our alleged respected friends???
I would like to say I wouldn't have done but I think what goes thru most pros minds now is, 'well they would do the same to me and so fukk 'em I am gonna grab that trophy'.
We are breeding two faced hypocrites in paintball who would smile in your face and yet stab you in the back in a heartbeat.
There is no honour here, no working ethics, no real respect other than a maniacal desire to win that overrules virtues such as I have mentioned.
Joy were robbed, of that there is little doubt but if you read all this thread it would have you believe the judges were pivotal in the way this game went, and of course the Dynasty players who shot without armbands on etc but........these were decisions all made in the heat of the moment.
Isn't the real injustice here the fact that after the dust had settled and people have had time to reflect, isn't the real injustice a bunch of guys who have been awarded first place realising they didn't deserve it then going on to accept that prize.....and no doubt shake the hands of the second placed team on the podium whilst smiling???
Does that sicken anybody else's gut apart from mine??
When I sold Nexus, I thought I would miss being involved in the pro scene Stateside ......maybe I ain't so rueful....
, but what i mean is dynasty embarassed themselves and acted like little kids and joy sucked it up and it was dynastys bitch strops that got them the game and joys sportsmanship that cost them.
