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Is X-ball the future?

Kardasz-Psycho Pimps

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just read the x-ball rule looks like errrrr - it could be fun

the idea is good though, the combination of different aspects of diffeerent sports :ie roll in substitutions.

i mean you ask some people what paintball is theres always a large majority that dont have a clue so having more familiar aspects of other sports will encourage people to try it.

i just hope they dont change the name to bashocaintball - catchy huh
 

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I think the idea that coaches can shout from the sidelines, whilst radical, is in itself, detrimental to what Richmond’s trying to do because as has already been said, offensive initiatives are going to be like rocking horse ****.
It will virtually kill the game right there unless the games are allowed to develop naturally i.e. teams can play aggressively without the fear of a facking siren call alert every time a player breaks cover to mug some fool.

Nah, I think the whole concept is cool but it has at its heart a fatal flaw, I will do what I can to get it changed because it would be a shame to launch a new project that has so much promise only to find it has a hole, the size of Ledzy's ass in it.

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Certainly through the coah communication elemant removing/reducing the element of suprise is enough to have all wanna-be muggers think twice, indeed this is an element which could be highly detrimental to what Richmond is trying to acheive... a fast paced, 40 minutes, not another variation on what we tend to have at the minute spread over 40mins.

As for a defensive squad and an attacking squad... this is up to each coah as it is at the minute, and I don't think this will have too great a bearing on the actual way the game play... after all if you played an existing team of Defence players against a more agressive attacking team you can come out ontop either way through different styles... my only worry is that a team infront can sit back and let the other-side do all the work... but by the same token the other side now has nothing to lose by really going for it? Now there is real incentive to make 'stupid' moves for no other reason than you have to score and you have nothing to lose!

After all if you went onto a game thinking "Ive really got to push the envelope.. Ive really got to go for it because we are going to lose" it's human nature to 'react' and lets face it, if you HAVE TO win your going to try that much harder.
 

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BUT WHY?

Nick could you please explain fyrther why you dont think this promotes aggressive play over defensive play?

As far as I can see the difference between this xball format and 'standard' is that you dont get awarded points for elemination in standard/Millenium, but not in x-ball.. the only way to score points, therefore win is to hang the flag...

How is this beneficial to defensive play?
 
Future or not...

... it's a cool idea. The first real attempt to change what many people bevlieve is an antiquated game format.

However, I also feel that it could lead to defensive games. Why do I say COULD as opposed to would, well only because we don't know what the coaches have in mind.

Look at it this way, in almost every sport there is a way for the team who has the lead at any given time to stall and try to protect a lead. U.S. football has the running game in the 4th quarter (keep it in the iddle of field slowly eating up the clock) - college basketball had it with the 4-corners offense (just ask the great North Carolina teams before the shot clock) - Soccer (the other football) has it with extremely boring back field ball play, why should paintball be any different?

Here are a couple scenarios I see happening: Team A wins the first game in 3 minutes with great aggressive play (here is the aggressive part) but for the remaining 7 minutes of the quarter (the quarters are 10 mnutes not 15 Nick - or that's what the web site says) they sit on their ass waiting for team B to come at them. Team B becomes a little hesitant because now they don't want to go down 2-0 so they take they time on a strongly dug in defensive team. OR we have the other scenario - my favourite - Team A & B are tied going into the last quarter, Team B shoots all of team A in 4 minutes BUT THEN DOES NOTHING for the remaining 5 1/2 minutes and then hangs the flag with 10 seconds to go in the quarter. Sounds real fun - real agressive - probably get them booed off the field - but it is within the rules.

It's a good idea that Richmond had in regards to making the scoring simpler - 1 point for a won game, what could be easier? - but if he wanted to promote agressive playing style, all he has to do is award points for how long it takes each team to hang the flag after the start whistle is blown.

Just some rambling Sunday night thoughts.

goose

P.S. Brock - it is nice to see that you included Lars in your list :)
 

egiii

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I think the idea is in many ways brilliant. I love paintball, but what sucks at the moment is that when I was in LA earlier this year just to watch the games you can't actually see more than a few of good pro vs pro games. The playing time you get to watch very short.

Now with the Xball I could see Dynasty vs Avalanche for an full hour instead of the normal 5 minutes it takes Dynasty to win the game =)

To spice it up even more you could let the teams change the field between the quarters a bit. So in the start there would be a normal sup'air field. For the first quarter team A is allowed to move 2 bunkers where they want. Then for the second quarter it would be team B's turn to move two bunkers again and so on. This would give one more tactical perpective to the game.

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