Honest question, and I want HONEST ANSWERS!!!

[SpectorX]

Well, I once had an experience like this. I was in the back my cpt. told me to get ready to hit the bunker about 20 ft away (a mad dash across the middle of the field...=/) i said OK even though I wanted to say HELL NO!, lol so i bit my lip and got ready for my run, our back guy yelled go and i sprinted for the bunker i was getting shot at and got hit in the chest once...but only once...i couldent see so i kept going and slid into the bunker, i wasnt sure so i turned to my team mates and yelled "am i hit!?"...they said no...and i wasnt, was just luck that it didnt break, and if i had stopped to move my mask to see it they would of lit me up like a christmas tree. SO, it pays off to ask questions later.

 

[KillerOnion]

I think if I were really hyped up and into it, it'd have to be a break, most likely more than one, for me to even feel it. Often times you barely feel it even when it hits a hard part like your hands unless you feel the wetness of the break. It would have be somewhere on me that would get my attention, like the chest, stomach, arm, shoulder, etc...not something that I couldn't see and isn't part of what I'm focusing on moving. I'd likely finish the run if that's the nearest thing to me, but if it's a long way I'd probably go to the nearest bunker and let the refs catch up. Not deliberate playing on by any means, just simply acknoledging that attention when your heart is pumping like a Chevy 454 is a very scarce commodity that is naturally going to be focused in on the one player in front of ya and what he does and very, very little else.

 

[Duncster]

This post was actually intended as a test of people's honesty...

...In reality, I kinda expected most people to put their hands in the air and proclaim themselves as angelic beings...I'm glad honesty came first.

HOWEVER......

..... Checking yourself after the mug? Don't you kinda *expect* to be taken out when you've finished the move? Percentage-wise, how many mid-game mugging's actually result in the mugger staying in the game?.....

OKAY, try this one out for size......

You feel a hit, you aint sure if it broke coz it's on your collar bone or something.....you call a marshall over to check it out. He ummm's and aaah's for a bit and then decides it's just spray off a bunker and let's you play on. Bearing in mind that you actually FELT the hit, do you:

a) Think to yourself, "Well, I should have known better than to come over the top of that bunker...I'll know better next time!" and promptly get you're sorry ass off the field....

OR

b) Say "Thanks, oh you most God-like of all Judges. I shalt put thee on my chrimbo card list, and buy you a drink at the players party later on this evening..... I love you..." and carry on playing. Oh, did I mention you were in a crucial game-winning spot of the field, and the opposite team would have surely won if you screwed up?

The choice is yours.............

D.

 

[KillerOnion]

I will call myself out if I feel a hit break, most often because if something breaks on me, chances are it won't be the only one and I figure save the pain. I haven't had said situation happen where a ref wiped a hit...just hasn't come up. It's pretty clear cut when I'm in or out. A break just feels deader and duller, not sharp and punctuated. If it's in a spot that I can look at it, I'll look as time affords it. I'm not going to do a corkscrew with my neck nor will I let myself get mugged over it (Happened to me once and it won't again.), but yeah I think if it's something that I can help then I'll do my best. It'd be a stretch to ask anyone to check their shoes, though.

 

[Flash-Bugout]

In the mugging scenario, if I look down and see a hit which I know came before the mug took place, I'll tell the judge to put the other player back in. If I get the living proverbials lit out of me after the mug however, and
a) I can't tell which was the hit I possibly took on the run, and
b) The other team puts more than a couple of hits on me (which tends to sting a little)

I'll rely on the judge

As for the second scenario, if I call a judge over to check, and he says there's paint there, but he's not sure, then unless I know I've been leaning against something covered in paint, I'll walk.
If I'm in a good mood with the team I'm playing. If I can't see it, and the judge calls me clean - what can I do?

If the rule enforcer dude says I'm not out, then I'm not out.

 

[Tom Tom]

For Senario 2 (cause you'd never catch me running anywhere )
We were playing a team at the Welsh Open, and I was taking a lot of paint on my baracade, A marshall was standing next to me watching me like a hawk. I try to pride myself like you do Dunk on not cheating, I was constantly asking this guy is it a hit? I could feel them hitting but great marshalling meant i could stay in all of 30 seconds longer.

Its a tricky one to answer cause you think different on the field

 

[Beaker]

Dunc

I kinda had scenario 2 happen to me at Toulouse last year.

I went in for a mug round a tea bag. I shot him and he shot at me, I felt a hit on my neck. I got back in round the other side of the bunker and waited for a marshall. He came over, called me neutral and checked me, he even moved my head to both sides to check my neck etc and called me clean.

We then went on the mug the last 2 guys and I ran the flag back. Then the judge checking me as the runner called it a hit (which was actually pretty blatant when I took my jersey off and looked at it).

When I protested (as I thought I had been called clean and taken no subsequent paint) the last marshall acknowledged I had been called clean as he'd seen me being checked and so he didn't 1-4-1 us for playing on.

Now I didn't point out the neck hit as the marshall had specifically moved my head to check for such hits but somehow missed it.

It was just one of those calls that went my way (for once!) ......

 

[Bud]

You get up and start the run........in the meantime the rest of your team shoot all the marshalls.....the marshalls are then in a state of anger/confusion and checking themselves.....you mug the bloke and you are, surprise surprise clean.....by the time the marshalls are back in the game.

Ok so now there are 99% of you screaming "you can't do that" , and i agree.........but this did happen to me at a tourny over the water a few years back, and it worked, cos all i was doing was checking my head was still on it's shoulders after a barrage of shots, oh and the 1% of you are now thinking.....mmmmmm maybe just maybe!!!

I must stress my team do not endorse or partake in this practice and it has only happend to us once, but we could not prove it was
deliberate, hence they got away with it.

AND IT BLOODY HURT

 

[Duncster]

Yup, it's a tricky one.

I think it's just gonna be a case of trusting the judges. The games are just too quick to play any other way! These days, if you let anything hang out for more than a secone, you may as well kiss your armband goodbye.

It's fast now, but can you imagine how things are gonna be with the new X-Ball format? The marshalls will have to be Spot-on....That'll be interesting to watch!!

D.

 

[eric]

For the second scenario I'd keep playing. Lots of times when you get hit near the edges of your body(outside of legs, top of shoulders, otside of arms,etc.) the ball will hit you, break, but most of the paint will keep going and just fly a little behind you. If the ref calls it clean I would play, because it might be smaller than a quarter, which is possible.

Thats for tournaments at least. When we practice or we play rec and there is usually 1 or no refs, i put my hand back there, and if i see paint on it, I leave.