Highest Quality Uk Tournament

[Woody69]

Originally posted by Tricky
To follow on from Robbos post about the poor standard of UK players, I ask this:

Which tournament series provides the highest level of competition?

Except for pro tour of course because you can't just decide you want to play that.
Basically which series would provide you with a level of paintball not a million miles away from millenium?

I think you can only beat whats put in front of you................

Too many people underestimate how good some uk teams are, even the Kellys, Yeah we won the pro-tour, yeah we won the 2005 bullies series, yeah we placed 3rd in div 1 at the millenium series, we just wanna play every weekend and the results that we've had speak for themselves!!

Just play as much paintball as you can, thats my advice, take it or leave it.

If your all real serious, then i sugest you get yourselves over to america and do some nppl events.............

 

[Twizz ECI]

Originally posted by Woody69
I think you can only beat whats put in front of you................

Too many people underestimate how good some uk teams are, even the Kellys, Yeah we won the pro-tour, yeah we won the 2005 bullies series, yeah we placed 3rd in div 1 at the millenium series, we just wanna play every weekend and the results that we've had speak for themselves!!

Just play as much paintball as you can, thats my advice, take it or leave it.

If your all real serious, then i sugest you get yourselves over to america and do some nppl events.............

As i keep on saying Mate players always talk about playing and training hard, do it for 2 months, go and play an event, do bad then give up!!

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

and would it be better for european ball at the same time?

No it wouldn't - because you guys would suddenly have more than 5-6 quality teams in the MS - and the rest of us would suffer for it

Nick

 

[Robbo]

Originally posted by Mario
robbo, do you think that if the series organisers did get together (laughable i know) and started one standard tournament that raised the bar of tournament operations in the UK but rivalled the milleniums, would that be better for UK ball? and would it be better for european ball at the same time?

It won't hurt to have a unified series but the chances of that happening are next to zero and you are missing the point of what I am saying in that other thread.
I am saying the whole demographic of our player base is wrong if we wish to create the environment if we want to produce a consistent, widespread talent pool of dedicated players such as they have in the US.
Apart from a handful of teams over here, there is no general resolve for improvement, we wallow in mediocrity and apathy and deserve what we get.
But setting up a unified series is a start but even more basic than that is the main requirement to change the face of the playing demographic.

Let's for a moment look at the NPPL pro rankings, Nexus finish 6th, Shock 8th and Tigers 15th, Pheonix 17th and Jags 20th.
Hardly inspiring stuff with the Scandinavians knocking the sh1t out of us.

The Amatuer rankings give no real cause for optimism, in Div 1 Kelly's pop up at 3rd but from then on we make another appearence 13th, 15th, 16th, 23rd and 26th.

Div 2 is abysmal with a first showing in 13th spot followed up by 33rd, 38th and 39th.

Div 3 fares better with a 3rd, 5th, 6th, 9th and 20th.


What does this tell us?
Well it tells me that for the number of teams we got over here, which is quite considerable, we should be doing an awful lot better.
You cannot argue with rankings like this as an overall take on things.

 

[Russell Smith]

Unified Series will never happen, everyone thinks they are doing the right thing to provide the solution or are just in it for the money so they wont change.

As for team training well if you forget maybe the top ten UK teams, it dont exist, like Twizz says if they do it and dont see results at the next event they go back to piss about paintball.

It's not what events you play its what teams you play against and most brit teams just go to the MS and play in the cheapest division they can get in because it's a weekend away.
We need the players to want to do better themselves before we try and work out fully how to do it.

And to be honest, I dont see many of them about.


Russ

 

[Markie C]

are training is paying off i know we have loads to learn but i think that we can move forward. not to the nexus stanard. but we are trying all the time it dosent have to be the top team s that are training all the time we dont piss about we do drills in the morning then games in the afternoon.But somr times we find it hard when we have to run the site as well

 

[Russell Smith]

Mark,

Please dont think I dont support what you are trying to do at all.

You provide the manchester area with a good training venue and I know you have teams coming along to use it but how many of those team players want to come on their own accord, or do they turn up because the captain told them they had to attend.

It's all about drive, and as someone said on the other thread, most players are just doing it as a pastime so dont really want to do it (training) anyhow.
You will see for yourself the ones who want to do well come every time they can not when the team is turning up so they have to come along as well.

Russ

 

[Markie C]

i agree russ you took that the wrong way mate i was taking about my team first all we did was play game now we are starting to do drills then the games we are having a personal trainer coming down this week ( and i knw i need it) to show us how to warm up and to get ready for the game.

when xsv came down not the clinic but when nicky cuba and greg h came along they set out the field and just did drill after drill after drill till tomas was sick then they started to dril agian non stop for 6 hours, not saying we are going to do that but we are working on it,it just made us realise that we need to do more.

 

[Steve Hancock]

The reason their are lots of series, is because there is lots of demand. If there isn't sufficient demand the series will die. The reason there is lots of demand is because player have no where else to go. If there was sites around the country offering regular walk-ons, and one of these in each region holding a monthly tournament, then this would cater for the casual tourney players that currently dilute all the series that tour around the country. Then there would be a smaller core of serious players that could compete in a true top national league. If there was enough of them then you could have divisions in the national league.

The regional leagues held at the sites, could feed up to the national league. Perhaps two teams from each league entering a qualification play-off tourney at the end of the season. However that would mean effectively lossing customers to another league, which competeing leagues would not be keen to do unless they were getting something in return.

Of course if we were playing a match format, the matches could be held around the country at the regional events.

That would produce a pretty good league.

Anyway enough dreaming. I'm going for a run.