HELP!me decide what loader to get for my new SpEeD AnGeL!!!

[gasolineonthefire]

wow thnx alot peeps-i think im gonna have to go with an eggII
it seems to be the way to go especially with money involved thnx alot-dont forget that you can post other tips to.have fun and ill take a look from time to time and reply.

nick d

 

[gasolineonthefire]

hey here we go, now what pack shoud i go with if i only want about 3 pods and can use 30-65 bux.try that one HAHA!!

nick d
p.s.
anyone want an old black micromag that needs a possible shim to make it work again =) ill also trade. hehe. thnx again ill check in.

 

[TyroneD.Ni]

Get a rage 3+5 holds 3 pots and 2 little sleves for the extra its super tight,comfortable and pritty durable but watch the little pot holder sticky things one of em came off mine ..

 

[gasolineonthefire]

ok ill take a look at one of them. comeone peeps shoot more at me. up ^

 

[gasolineonthefire]

hey peeps im leaning towards a redz 2+1 dimension pack for 18 bux.lets see if you can change my mind.

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by Benfrain
Well, the general rule of thumb is if it's open bolt (e.g. Timmy/Angel) stay away from the Halo. I hae yet to use an Angel/Halo combination (whether it be Speed or IR3) that didn't give regular breech bursts (2-5 balls per hopper full)

As cockers are closed bolt, they should theoretically work well with the Halo.

However, as ever there is an exception that proves the rule - Viking is open bolt and when I had a go of Colliers it was phenomenally quick using a halo and not a single burst after 1 hopper and 2 x 140 pots through it...

Yep, Halo B and Viking, a match made in heaven!

Paul

 

[manike]

Originally posted by Benfrain
Well, the general rule of thumb is if it's open bolt (e.g. Timmy/Angel) stay away from the Halo. I hae yet to use an Angel/Halo combination (whether it be Speed or IR3) that didn't give regular breech bursts (2-5 balls per hopper full)

I disagree. If you have a fast gun and trigger finger then there is a remarkable difference in using a Halo B over an Egg2. If you or your gun are slow then you will be ok with an egg 2.

I use a Halo B very happily on my Intimidator (open bolt) and so do many people on other open bolt guns.

Some people have issues but in general they can be sorted and I think it's worth it personally. I think Benfrain you are just one of those that has been unlucky.

There are many, many, people that swear by the Halo B on fast guns. WDP designed the speed to work with force feed technology, that's one of the reasons it has dual ball detents. Here is Keely using an Angel Speed and Halo B. She's been using that combo since the Speed came out...

Here is another guy with a speed and halo (nice flames...)

Looking through the pictures on FON you see Halo's on all manner of open bolt guns, Angels, Timmies and Matrixes in particular.

I do know that I just tested a Y board evolution and a Halo B with my Timmy. With the evo 2 I couldn't get over 11bps! With the Halo B I hit 17bps most of the time and once I got 18bps... so that makes around 50% more paint in the air with the Halo B... sounds like a big advantage to me.

I know some people have supposedly gotten the Egg with y board to average 13bps with a timmy but I can't (and as anyone who has seen my gun knows it is FAST). And I don't know of any proof that someone that has gotten over 13bps consistently with a Y board egg (fastest I have ever seen a video got to 14bps once between two shots but it was mainly 13bps). With the Halo B I know I regularly get 15-17bps, and I know of some people who have achieved over 20bps with the Halo B.

 

[manike]

Another open bolt gun...

hehehe look Tippman effect ripping it up with Halo B's on their Model 98's!

 

[Ben Frain]

Manike, I'm not arguing in the least that the Halo is a better made and faster feeding hopper. It is.

However, from my experience of 3 different IR3's, 2 different Speeds, 1 Impulse and 2 seperate Halo B's (with TE software), not once did I get through a hopper full of paint without at least 2/3 breech bursts. I think that experience would be remarkable if it was simply bad luck??

For some people breech bursts are no biggie, they are happy to squeegie out and continue, further more people are lucky and the combo works fine (not seen it first hand but many people say so, and I have no reason to doubt them, yourself included) for example the Viking example I gave.

However, my point is, that if you want zero hassles with your Speed, the best option IS the Evo II, simply because it works - no chops, no drama. Maybe not as fast as the Halo, but I have never outshot my y-board Evo II and realistically, in a game environment, I don't think many others would either. Frazer from WDP even told me directly that they don't rate the Halo/Angel combi as it has inherent design problems. When I see with my own eyes a Halo and Speed working together faultlessly maybe I will change my mind.

But until them, I don't want to spend hours trouble shooting a hopper/marker combi, of course I am willing to try any manner of quick fixes (e.g. altering dwell, even oiling the belt of the Halo) but when it comes to buying harder detents etc I think it starts to become a little silly.

I stand by what I said. I think the y-board Evo II is plenty fast enough for a Speed and I also think it's a better choice than the Halo due to the points I've mentioned.

Have you personally tried a Halo B on a Speed?

 

[manike]

Originally posted by Benfrain
Have you personally tried a Halo B on a Speed?

Yes. I've tried it on most top end guns. Never on a model 98 though

I find it strange when people will pay £1000 for a gun and over £100 for a hopper but not £10 for decent ball detents to get it to work IF there is a problem.

Benfrain you tried two different Halo's didn't you. You may have tried them on many guns, but it could have been you got unlucky with the two halo's you tried.

I know there was a bad batch which made it over to the UK Hopefully that is being rectified, and OPP do stand by their products. I believe Planet Eclipse are just being sorted out to act as a distributor and to provide support over here.

OPP haven't had the easiest run of things and having to over come the costs of the lawsuit from BE has been making things tough for a while.

Your point was NOT about zero hassles. You were pointing out a rule of thumb which seemed to say something very different and advising people not to get a Halo if they have an open bolt gun, which to be honest is BS. Halo will work fine on most guns now, but you may have to make some adjustments or buy a few other accessories to get the most from the combo.

One other point, do you play with the Sensi turned on with your speed? If you do then of course you won't outshoot the evo 2... try turning Sensi off and see what happens.