Gun Control politics on both sides of the pond

[Mark/Static]

Have you all tried the good old petition route? Every player of voting age signs a petition explaining what paintball is, how you play it, and what import you place on safety and responsibility. The drive can be spread to all fields in the UK, and sent to each local representitive promising to vote against him or her if they allow paintball to be restricted in anyway.

 

[Mark]

Originally posted by Mark/Static
Have you all tried the good old petition route? Every player of voting age signs a petition explaining what paintball is, how you play it, and what import you place on safety and responsibility. The drive can be spread to all fields in the UK, and sent to each local representitive promising to vote against him or her if they allow paintball to be restricted in anyway.

Mark as Bully has posted,this is a UK centred issue, nothing to do with America (this is why a great many of the posts in this thread have "seemed" to turn on any of the americans who have posted in this thread).

It would be silly to petition an MP (Member of Parliment) with an issue that doesn't really concern them, The "glee" they would show when presented with this "present" but could with a favourable (for them) result get them higher up the food chain within goverment (shadow or otherwise) it would be stupid to start a petition prior to the UKPSF approaching the goverment, plus the old army adage of never volunteer for anything is VERY relevent here. Telling an MP you will not vote for them at the next election will just go in one ear and out the other. All politicians will make the right noises until they actually get into power and then all kinds of promises are broken, this is regardless of the party to whom they belong and all new goverments blame the last for anything they can't deal with plus the (now) opposition will shout very loudly at how they would do it differently ...until they get in power and then ...oh its the same as it was before!

Govermental control is required, that is a fundamental point of a democracy (regardless of the so called people power...(the vote)) but to trust a politician....not a good idea, human they may be but power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutly. they are interested in them selves first and the "people" second.

 

[TJ Lambini]

Then why

were so many Brits volunteering for marker registration?

 

[Mark]

TJ the principle of registration I am not against but earlier in this thread you made the quote of " taking the gun (whatever) from your cold dead fingers" or words to that effect...registration would just make the confiscation of "markers" quicker so until it is compulsory by law my markers are my biz, plus I am way over 17 so current regs would not apply to me anyhow

 

[TJ Lambini]

Dude, I was taking tha piss...

Why are you not against registration if it would make markers easier to confiscate?

 

[Mark]

Ha Ha ok..

Well if the "changes" in classification of paintball markers was by way of the continued usage then I would register but I wouldn't follow the crowd and register my marker before it was needed....so in turn I was taking the piss at the UK 'ballers who want to rush into the idea


(side note......as taking the piss is an english phrase.....who is logged in as TJ ? )

 

[TJ Lambini]

I'm bi-lingual

English an' American...and it'll be a jolly olidays wiv you and no mistaking, Mary Poppins.

See - I do cockney too.

 

[Mark]

You're BI something

mmm ok (remeber Dick van Dyke was an american )

 

[Mark/Static]

Originally posted by Mark
It would be silly to petition an MP (Member of Parliment) with an issue that doesn't really concern them, The "glee" they would show when presented with this "present" but could with a favourable (for them) result get them higher up the food chain within goverment (shadow or otherwise) it would be stupid to start a petition prior to the UKPSF approaching the goverment, plus the old army adage of never volunteer for anything is VERY relevent here. Telling an MP you will not vote for them at the next election will just go in one ear and out the other. All politicians will make the right noises until they actually get into power and then all kinds of promises are broken, this is regardless of the party to whom they belong and all new goverments blame the last for anything they can't deal with plus the (now) opposition will shout very loudly at how they would do it differently ...until they get in power and then ...oh its the same as it was before!

Hey all US/UK philosophical and political differences aside; Airguns have become a target for regulation in the wake of a murder in which airguns were not used. Can we agree that this (as with the .22 target shooters prior) was an overreaction? Can we also agree that there is a good chance that another high profile murder will again take place on UK soil in the future? And do we agree that there would be a good chance that it will be well publicized, giving your MP's an opportunity to promise tougher laws?

Originally posted by Mark
Govermental control is required, that is a fundamental point of a democracy.....

Uh, no not really. Quite the opposite. But hey, do what you think is best.

 

[Mark]

At least you have put the differing politics aside...so yes there WILL be something airgun related happening but then "knee jerk" reactions are not good.....marker registration (un co-hearsed is NOT the way forward). We in this country had ONE school shot up (total tragedy) and the (our) goverment over reacted....your country has had how many schools shot up? and no reaction from the state legistar (sp?) or the goverment....but then I guess I am re-opening your (flawed in my view) constitution. So we will just have to live with those differences.


The quote regarding govermental control is accurate because without goverment you have anarchy...how the goverment got to be in power via "your" vote is a side issue, what they do once they are in power is the problem.