General Election the Ballers Vote

[Thib]

Thats how they want you to think it works.
But beleive me reality doesnt come close to that.


From where Im sitting, People inside the EU have to pay UK tax on my exported goods but people outside will more than likely not.

My companies products are more compettitive outside the EU.
A frugal customer would be looking for alternatives outside the EU where taxes are more easily avoided.



Despite all the regulations, each country within the EU has a its own unique attitudes and characteristics.

Italy for instance is run by the Mafia. You cant legislate against that its simply how their country is.
In Greece, paying tax is only really for gullible people.



Free and fair trade is great. But you cant legislate people into being the same.
Its insulting to the people concerned and a waste of billions of pounds.

If outside EU people would pay ex-vat but have to pay vat back;
most EU country charge more than 17.5% vat ....
The problem don't come from this, it come from the possibility to don't pay vat ...

Big companies would left UK to a EU country to don't have to import/export everything and losing % both ways.

For Greece, kicking them off EU would be good. Lying should be a good enough reason.
Don't have problem with Italy mafia, what is wrong for you ?

What compagnie are you running ? (what are they doing)

 

[Robbo]

No you don't Pete, it's the most thankless job going and not very well paid. The only time you make any real money is once your out of office.

I would never do it for the money unlike most of them self-serving scumbags masquerading as our parliamentary representatives; I would do it so as to gain some semblance of control back and I'd start with immediately closing down our frontiers in terms of immigration.

No arguments!!

Then, I would target all illegal immigrants and send them back from whence they came, no arguments !!!

This may sound a bit reactionary and some way wanna make it sound racist in some way but it's not; I don't give a sh!t what race you are, if you are here illegally, you are going home.

If I go and smash someone's face in with a baseball bat, the police will go to considerable lengths to catch me, and I mean really considerable lengths.
Fact is, if I had bashed somebody like that, it would undoubtedly have been illegal.
Boris Johnson with his infinite wisdom and altruism, decided to propose that half a million illegal immigrants stay in London on the basis it would cost more to deport them than if we just allowed them to stay; half a feckin million,a nd that's just in London alone for gawd sake.

Wonderful ...... I wonder if Mr Johnson would consider the cost of my capture if he was on the wrong end of my baseball bat?

It seems one rule for me and another for 'others'.

The vast majority of politicians are gutless and so won't ever deal with a problem like this because they are scared of being accused racist or whatever.
I ain't gutless; I know what's right and I know what's wrong, and I know that what's happening in this country with our liberal attitude toward immigration is wrong, and it's really wrong.

I hate what's happening to our country, I really do.

And let me tell you something here, whoever you vote for, the government will always get in !!!
The respective governments of the last 25 years are to blame, 100% to blame.
Politicians are all gutless, self-serving conmen.

 

[Thib]

I really like the "it would cost more to catch me" Robbo .

If only people would apply same logic to everything ....
If there is a law, why breaking it ?
If they break a law on something and people don't do anything;
why not breaking another law ?

If they want law to be respected, the first thing to do, would be to respect the law too.
You can't say "Do what I told you to do, not what I am doing", that's wrong ...

 

[imaninja]

i hope the 8 who voted BNP were joking :tsk:

 

[Robbo]

i hope the 8 who voted BNP were joking :tsk:

If the mainstream parties had properly and responsibly dealt with the immigration problem then I doubt those guys would have voted BNP, I think it just goes to show how bad it must be when the scum BNP can attract even that many votes.
It's testament to complete and utter desperation I think, the desperation of people feeling so frustrated and exasperated toward mainstream parties because immigratin is not being dealt with that they then feel they have to vote for an extremist party like the BNP.

It must be bad ......

 

[Return of the Silver Fox]

Pete, the problem is that most of the immigrants you are talking about don't show on the radar. You need to ask who is paying them to make it worth while cos it's not the benefit system.
Immigrants represent a fraction of moneys claimed off the state but get more column inches than Simon (I'm a Tory) cowell.
It's the 50,000 rule again but bigger. Nobody knows how many there are so let's make up a number. It may not be right but even if it's 10% of that it's still a big number so we need to be worried.
If we're talking stats and newspapers/politicians.
I saw an argument today that said we need to pull out of Afghanistan as 250 troops have now died there. That's in almost 10 years. While it's not good by any means it could be the safest war fought in history!
Consider this on british roads during the same period 35000 people have died and we have the safest roads in Europe.
Don't get me wrong, I'm as English as they come. I fly the flag on St George's day and the queens birthday (both of them). If you travel on the west coast mainline over the world cup period you'll see the cross of St George hanging from an oak tree just south of Leyland station. I love England and it's traditions but it's not as at risk as the press would have you believe.
Immigration isn't top of my agenda there's plenty of other stuff before it.

 

[Tony Harrison]

I predict a hung parliament.

 

[Return of the Silver Fox]

I predict a riot

 

[Lump]

hope your ALL voting today ?

 

[Robbo]

Pete, the problem is that most of the immigrants you are talking about don't show on the radar.

If I robbed a bank, I wouldn't be on the radar either mate .... point is, we CANNOT just ignore them, we have to go after them and send them back.
They have broken the law and they do not deserve to be here.

You need to ask who is paying them to make it worth while cos it's not the benefit system.
Immigrants represent a fraction of moneys claimed off the state but get more column inches than Simon (I'm a Tory) cowell.
It's the 50,000 rule again but bigger. Nobody knows how many there are so let's make up a number. It may not be right but even if it's 10% of that it's still a big number so we need to be worried.
If we're talking stats and newspapers/politicians.
I saw an argument today that said we need to pull out of Afghanistan as 250 troops have now died there. That's in almost 10 years. While it's not good by any means it could be the safest war fought in history!
Consider this on british roads during the same period 35000 people have died and we have the safest roads in Europe.
Don't get me wrong, I'm as English as they come. I fly the flag on St George's day and the queens birthday (both of them). If you travel on the west coast mainline over the world cup period you'll see the cross of St George hanging from an oak tree just south of Leyland station. I love England and it's traditions but it's not as at risk as the press would have you believe.
Immigration isn't top of my agenda there's plenty of other stuff before it.

As for the rest of your post, I do not need the media to massage any data just so's they can elicit reactions from the readership; I use my eyes and ears mate.
I live in London and so I don't need no press to tell me what it's like.

I 100% agree with your assessment of the accuracy of the figures quoted but we know one thing for sure mate, it isn't a small number and it isn't in the millions but ... I think the number quoted [half a million] was the correct order of magnitude and that being the case, just because the figure might not be accurate, this doesn't then invalidate the whole argument as some people like to propose.
Just go take a walk thru London mate on any day of the week, keep your eyes and ears open and you will realise just how marginlaised the English have become.

I realise that from that this observation it's almost impossible to discern an accurate estimate as to which people are illegal but you will have an extremely rough idea as to the problem.