It's easy to judge, but let's be honest, just by reading this thread, we don't have all the information. What are the criteria for getting one? Might be more good in it than it would first seem. And don't forget, even if the parents are total timewasters, that's no reason to write off the kids as well. In fact, without any outside help timewasters' kids most likely become timewasters too. What this help should entail is obviously open to debate.