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Evil Vs KAPP 'cheating' incident

TOOLE

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yeah, but i hope that peeps just realise that cheaton don't help anyone.

i say that you only get 2 warnings for stuff like wiping before you are suspended for a few games, and serious stuff should be expellable!
 

Tyger

Old School, New Tricks
Originally posted by TOOLE

paintball is a sponsor driven sport and therefore once sponsors find that there teams are cheating, they kiss goobye to their spnsorship.
Read the Aftershock interview in PGI a while ago. They REVEL int he fact that, as they said it, "Fistfights happen at our team practices." They also revel in thier cheating reputation. (The ad "Even thought Bruno was out of bounds, it was still a good move.")

Also note that most of the players in the upper end of paintball are also the INDUSTRY people. So many of hte pro players are also industry people who sponsor the events. they don't care.

Image is worthless, it's all about trophies. If you were to tell ANY company that their sponsored team cheats, at best you'll get no reply. At worst, you'll get back "Then cheat better." And nobody will sponsor a team that plays clean, because they aren't winning tournaments. Sorry, argue ALL you want, I am right.

This isn't to mention the "under the table" meetings and deals. this isn't to mention the roll overs, the thrown games, and all that. And before Robbo jumps down my throat, Robbo has said before he turned a team in that ADMITTED to rolling a game to get a sponsorship deal. (Or was it just cold cash? No matter. Ask Robbo, he'll tell you all the gory details...) Granted, it was years ago this happened, but do you REALLY think it's stopped?

My opinion is bleak, because nobody has bothered to demonstrate that it shouldn't be.

-Tyger
 

Red_Merkin

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Image is worthless, it's all about trophies. If you were to tell ANY company that their sponsored team cheats, at best you'll get no reply. At worst, you'll get back "Then cheat better." And nobody will sponsor a team that plays clean, because they aren't winning tournaments. Sorry, argue ALL you want, I am right.
Dude you are so right.
Therefore it comes down the the tournament promoters and series organisers to make sure that the rules and penalties are enforced.
 

neill

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it all comes down to one thing for the teams and sponsors MONEY how much the winning team gets to win by "CHEATING" and how much after sales the sponsors get from there team promoting a alledge winning product/s.and i remember the story of the team being courted by two pro teams to roll over and throw there amateur status and let the pro team through to the finals for a **** load of gear and money very naughty
laters
neill:)
 
Originally posted by TOOLE
yeah, but i hope that peeps just realise that cheaton don't help anyone.
It does if you get away with it... it helps you win

I am not a cheater, just an ideaoligcal cynic. I would never cheat, but that doesn't mean that I don't acknowledge that people do and people get away with it. Even "Paint-check" the paintball board game has a "Dark-side" expansion lettig your little plastic 'ballers cheat.

Richard