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[jynxfactor]

Originally posted by Paul_collier


So in conclusion the IR3, in its operation alone is no more accurate then either the LED or LCD, its all down to the user!


So, if the user is a bench with a vice on it, your right. There should be no difference between them.

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by jynxfactor
Originally posted by Paul_collier


So in conclusion the IR3, in its operation alone is no more accurate then either the LED or LCD, its all down to the user!


So, if the user is a bench with a vice on it, your right. There should be no difference between them.

my point was that the marker alone is not more accurate! plus if you can learn to hold the IR3 comfortably then you can learn to hold an lcd steady

Paul

 

[sxh62755]

Hi Paul
The thing I would go fo in an IR3 is the anti chop but as you all know there is the V impulse and the intimidator, the 90 degree grip is to eliminate the swan neck hold that most paint ballers do when shooting a 45 degree framed marker, therefore bringing the back closer to your face. [comfortable?]
WDP did consult physios or medical pros and their theory was the 90 degree frame would be better and easier for the paintballer to use. But every one holds their marker differently ie cradling your air system like some back players do, well I dont know how effective a 90 degree frame would be in that situation, and actually pulling the trigger down is very bizzare concept to me.
Its early days, it took over a year for people to warm up to the impulse.
we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by sxh62755
Hi Paul
The thing I would go fo in an IR3 is the anti chop but as you all know there is the V impulse and the intimidator, the 90 degree grip is to eliminate the swan neck hold that most paint ballers do when shooting a 45 degree framed marker, therefore bringing the back closer to your face. [comfortable?]
WDP did consult physios or medical pros and their theory was the 90 degree frame would be better and easier for the paintballer to use. But every one holds their marker differently ie cradling your air system like some back players do, well I dont know how effective a 90 degree frame would be in that situation, and actually pulling the trigger down is very bizzare concept to me.
Its early days, it took over a year for people to warm up to the impulse.
we'll have to wait and see.

Yeah I know all the bumf behind the grip frame cheers though Sam

Paul

 

[Matski]

Originally posted by Paul_collier


So in conclusion the IR3, in its operation alone is no more accurate then either the LED or LCD, its all down to the user!

Paul

Thats right, but the point is that you cant drag a bench and a vice onto the field and clamp the gun in position so it dosnt matter if all guns are just as accurate, the thing that seperates them is how they aid the users accuracy.....AND THE IR3 DOES THE MOST AIDING!

 

[Liz]

Originally posted by matski

Thats right, but the point is that you cant drag a bench and a vice onto the field and clamp the gun in position so it dosnt matter if all guns are just as accurate, the thing that seperates them is how they aid the users accuracy.....AND THE IR3 DOES THE MOST AIDING!

Surely that has to depend on the individual user? As sxh62755 says, everyone holds their marker slightly differently & we are all just that little bit different in the way we are put together (some more than others ) so what is the optimum grip frame angle for one player may be no good at all for another.

 

[s|<int]

I havent had the chance to fire an IR3 properly...but one of the reasons I bend my wrist over when Im firing a 45, is because it brings my forearm and elbow back underneath my air system. It also drops my shoulder down thus creating a smaller target.

If the IR3 helps you hold the gun steadier thats great but some of the firing positions Ive found myself in I doubt anything would have benefited my very much. I dont know if anyone has any experience as to wether or not the IR3 forces your forearm back out the side?

Im not gonna draw any conclusions until I've played a few games with the new grip frame.

 

[Beaker]

Having shot the iR3 I can say I fall into the "nice idea but not for me" catergory.

It does help you keep tight if you are in an "ideal" shooting position but I found that it was counter productive if you started moving your hand around to all the other various positions you can find yourself in. Much like the ill fated Z grip was.

No doubt becuase it's WDP it will be a sucess but I for 1 wont be spending any cash on one just yet.

Plus I have heard many issues on some boards about the first run of guns and it's usually always better to wait that bit longer until a new design get's the bugs ironed out.

 

[Matski]

Beaker you are right dude, its all down to personal preference but bare in mind that the ir3's grip has been designed by players and it does make keeping tight easier.
To everyone else:
Rocky from lanche is a well known front player, he uses an ir3 and not because hes made to, but because he sez it god damn rocks! I know his opinion of it first hand so dont go thinking im just saying that. If it suites the caveman it suites pretty much anyone who plays front, if he thinks something is **** hell say so. I dont understand this thing about non-ideal shooting positions.......some of you might wanna take step back and think..hmmm well maybe i need to improve the technical side of my game....

All im trying to say is if it dosnt suit you maybe people should consider that its something their doing wrong, 'a bad workman always blames his tools' as they say.....

keep it real

 

[Beaker]

true - but I felt that I was thinking much more about how I was holding the damm thing than where it was pointing or what was hanging out. That to me does not make it a good design.

I am not saying it's a bad bit of kit and indeed there are some players who will swear by it and it will help them a lot. Great - all power to them.

But I also think it's soooo arrogant to say that the iR3 is brilliant and anyone who can't shoot it is doing something wrong.

I don't say anyone who can't get on with a cocker trigger is a muppet as the gun is flawless - the design of a cocker trigger mech doesn't suit everyone.

WDP are not the be all and end all of paintball - look at the AIR - far from the best air system out there.

the iR3 is another option, that's it, it's not the best - nothing is. If it really made such a huge difference why did Avalanche bomb in LA and Mardi ????

The top end guns now are so close the emphasis is on the player - not the choice of equipment.