as i have stated in other threads, i have been out of the tourney scene for over 6 years.. our team is anxious to start playing the circuit again.. we have tried every gun out there now to get the perfect marker (we feel).. the one thing we noticed is the outrageous cost of the set ups.. now, i admit , 6 years ago i had some expensive guns.. i thought they were to costly then but, at least they shot straight.. what amazes me is that a open bolt gun can be so expensive!! lets face it.. what is the difference between a bushie and a angel?? botha re open bolt, very fast guns.. the angel runs well over $1000.00 dollars to get it set up nicely.. the bushie, well set up, runs well below that.. now, botha re open bolt and very fast.. what makes the angel worth the extra $500.00?? what also strikes me is the inaccurate groupings with most markers these days...i shot all the available markers with various barrels and paint.. most were not very accurate at distance and the groupings were not impressive..it just seems to me that if i am going to shell out 1300.00 for a marker, i expect they thing to be accurate.., all have great rates of fire..very impressive but, for over 1000.00 ??? silly.. lets face it, the technology is not out of this world.. open bolt guns are not that difficult to make or produce..i was impressed with the new matrix and of course, the autococker with the electro is very impresssive..at least they were accurate..so basically, i found the bud orr products and their sisters (nexus, ect) are still the best and if i send out over a thousand dollars it will be for bud orrs retirement.. but even then, the price just does not match the technology.. if i go the cheap route, the shocktech bushie will be it.. i shot the bushie and the angel and could not justify the added cost of the angel.. the bushie shot just as good.. anyway, that is my rant and just thought i would share with ya what i have seen since my return.. and of course, i could be wrong... 
