Camp Masters

[Chris - Nexus Eclipse]

also as teams arive at an event on the thursday they will want to walk the field. If it is being used at the time every team will have to wait until the games are over to walk the field together!!!!

how many coaches want that!!!

 

[Baca Loco]

Y'all are a laugh riot

Do you lot hire out for parties, too?
You watch the RL whip up on the other Euros with virtually no competitive experience in the format in one event and you're ready to A) crown them Lords of the Xball Universe, B) toss in your chips if you're an Xball team and C) once again pin all your fading hopes and sad fantasies on RL to beat the NXL teams easily if only they could get a fair shot.

I told y'all in another thread (and nobody listened to me then either) and I'll tell you again--y'all are totally clueless.

 

[Robbo]

Originally posted by Red_Merkin
actually i want in on this thread...
The Russians IMHO will beat the Yanks in X-ball, IF THE REFFING IS FAIR.
I've seen the Legion get butt fu£kked too many times by the refs when playing Yank teams to say that they will win.

I fear what will happen to the Russians if they go the World cup for the x-ball finals, if the judges are yank judges. There is no way that the American Judges will ever let the Russians beat an american team.

In a fair unbiased match up i believe the russians will beat the pulp out of the yank teams.

If they get a fair unbiased set of refs, they have very good odds, if they don't then there's really no point in playing is there?

Col, in a general sense I think you are correct but I will say this much, I as you know played for two American teams for nearly five years Stateside and I bore witness on many occasion to favouritism when playing other nationalities.
That said, when the Yanks played XBall in the Nation's Cup in Pittsburgh, they were penalised more than any other nation there, and rightfully so.
In the finals games with the Russians they were heavily penalised again and I spoke to Sergey at length about those games and he put the eventual loss down to the Yanks just being better players and being able to free-style a lot better than the Russkies.
I am fully aware this was maybe a unique reffing crew at that event as Richmond made damn sure he was gonna get fair reffing and I wonder if that same resolve would be apparent if they meet again in the US, I hope it would.
The Russian outfit now is an evolutionary leap forward from what they were then and shows what can be done if the game is approached professionally...if only I could get the necessary resources behind me that would allow the same for me and Nexus coz I got about ten of them champing at the bit waiting to throw in their jobs and go full time pro.
That'd be the day

 

[Chris - Nexus Eclipse]

CAN WE!!!!!

 

[fred1]

Baca: Well, that might just be true..... just as you are clueless to the level of paintball the Russian Legion displayed this week end. Honestly you have got to see it to believe it. No doubt competition will be alot harder with the American teams but it's going to be very exciting to see the Russkies level with the Gringos!!!!

And I disagree with you about people pinning their sad fantasies on the russians! What people are excited about is the fact that there is finally a team that can really compete with the Americans at the X-Ball level and the result will be some of the best paintball games in history.

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by fred1
Baca:.... just as you are clueless to the level of paintball the Russian Legion displayed this week end.

Fred1, even as you may have watched it occurring somewhere outside Paris you too, were clueless as to the level of pball you were observing--which was my point.
You don't begin to have any real reference points to be making the sort of judgments y'all are making. And while I have no doubt at all the RL was loads up on everyone, so what?

 

[sjt19]

Fred, i have seen both Legion and Oakland, Lanche and Miami play that field. As one of the few Europeans that has actually seen any of the NXL teams in Xball action against each other, in my opinion the Legion, although they played that field well, did not play it as well as Oakland. They were not far behind however

Originally posted by Robbo
Sam, I would be interested to see if you maintain your assertion that the RL would get their ass spanked against the likes of the top Yank XBallers when they play them at XBall....I got five quid in me pocket that says 'no'

Fair enough. I am torn though. Half of me thinks that the Legion would lose to the likes of Oakland or Miami. Based on what i saw Miami and Oakland doing on that same field in San Francisco when we were out there in February. I am aware also that the Legion were not pushed in Paris, and may not have reached top gear. Unless there are these exhibition days then i doubt i will ever get an answer as to who would win between Oakland and Legion though, as they will never meet.

But the things that i saw the legion doing on the EXL field were not as good as the things that i saw the likes of Miami and Oakland doing. Although the Legion were AWESOME i am not sure whether at the moment they have the flair to compete with Oakland. Hopefully after a full season of trainig and EXL Legion will go out to the WC an batter the hell out of Oakland, Miami etc....

You may keep your £5 till October Pete, then i will take it off you.

 

[Robbo]

Paul, some of us can see past the lack of real competition the Russians encountered and see an objective game independant of competition and after witnessing it, I will predict the Russians will contend on an equal basis with the Yanks, any Yank team you care to mention in fact.
If you look beyond the results you can see near perfect snap shooting, you bear witness to running and shooting the like of which I have never seen before.
You can see game plans both varied and sophisticated.
You can see the speed of these guys as they move around the field, all of these apsetcs of play are relaltively independant of their opponents and as such can be used to assess any relative merits.
Either way, it should be fun

 

[Wadidiz]

Originally posted by Baca Loco
Fred1, even as you may have watched it occurring somewhere outside Paris you too, were clueless as to the level of pball you were observing--which was my point.
You don't begin to have any real reference points to be making the sort of judgments y'all are making. And while I have no doubt at all the RL was loads up on everyone, so what?

Baca, my man. I usually agree with you but you've gone a wee bit over here calling these people clueless without you having seen what we saw. I admit that I perhaps can't read PB playing as well as Robbo, Magued or Sam. But I reffed two days of the NXL playoffs, therefore I have a reference point and I can tell you that what I saw in Paris was DEFINITELY on par with what I was right in the middle of at the World Cup, especially the last few games. I am convinced that our finalists will give NXL's best a real run for the money, maybe even come home with some trophies. There's no empirical way to prove it now so we'll just have to wait and see.

Steve

 

[Wadidiz]

Sam

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
I think it is a decidedly poor idea, to let SOME of the EXL teams play the field on Thursday, and other not.....talk about getting an unfair advantage.

Either we all get a crack at exibition games - or nobody does...... in my oppinion !

Nick

I'm not saying this can or will be done but it would be easy enough to modify the field substantially for exhibition games and then change them quickly back. As for walking field, the Open X Ball field could be used since it would be identical.

Steve