Att. Jerry Braun!

[egiii]

Example

check www.team-cyclone.net/example.htm

This is just to see if I can understand how to do it, have I snaked the teams correctly to morning and afternoon?

If the morning/afternoon division is correct then let's have a look at the morning PRO game list:

I would need the two lowest ranked amateur morning teams to make pro/nov count even (7 pro teams and 12 novice teams, ad two amateurs so each pro team will play against two novice teams), right?

Ok, if the part above is correct then this is where I need help.

Which novice teams should the pro's play? For example, which two novice teams does pro 1 in this case play against? How about pro 4?

I would really like to learn how to do this so please give me feed back!

Regards

Egi / team Cyclone
Helsinki, Finland

 

[Jon Team Cumshot]

Thanks Nick!

Then I was correct about amateurs not playing pros. It's strange though that so many amateur teams played pros in joy masters, was this because there were som fev novice teams?

# Jon

 

[Jerry Braun]

Egi,

Given your example of 14 pros, 32 amateurs ans 24 novice, each playing 10 preliminary games, you have the following:

P1 P4 P5 P8 P9 P12 P13

N13 N12 N9 N8 N5 N4 N1
N16 N17 N20 N21 N24 A32 A29

Now, since each pro plays the other in this scenario, we have every pro playing six pros and only two of the novice and low level amateurs. That is only 8 games. To play 10 preliminary games, we have to continue the string with the amateurs...

A16 A17 A20 A21 A24 A25 A28
A13 A12 A9 A8 A5 A4 A1

and...

P4 P1 P1 P1 P1 P1 P1
P5 P5 P4 P4 P4 P4 P4
P8 P8 P8 P5 P5 P5 P5
P9 P9 P9 P9 P8 P8 P8
P12 P12 P12 P12 P12 P9 P9
P13 P13 P13 P13 P13 P13 P12

That completes the pros.

Now, since every amateur and novice team played one game against the pros, they each have 9 games left. Finish off the novice schedule by snaking through the amateurs so that each novice plays 4 amateurs ( or as close as you can get to that), and five novice teams. Remember, that when you round a corner (such as with N1 or N24, you list it twice). Finish the amateur schedule (each amateur team has now played one pro and four novice teams) by having each play five other amateurs.

Unfortunately, the algorithm is the only steady element in this process, one team, more or less, in a classification, could change everything.

 

[rancid]

I've tried everything you've said and I've ended up with a nice jumper and twin set combo in a lovely maroon 2ply wool.

Knitting tips from Jerry Braun, what a site this is.

 

[Jon Team Cumshot]

Thanks Jerry, Nick and all others who contributed!

For all the help in this thread.
I get the picture clearly now thanks to all yopur helpful explanations and examples!

# Jon

 

[Micah]

Ok ... I'm confused ...

Are the Novices Am B's ?

Wouldn't you want the Am's to play the pros? Wouldn't the avg level of competition be higher? tehn you have the Am B's playing the Am A's ... I'm just hung up on the whole Am's not playing the Pro's ... I don't understand ...

-Micah

 

[Jerry Braun]

Micah,

I'll let you in on a big secret if you promise not to tell anyone...

The strength of the NPPL and the Millennium series is not in the prizes offered or even the venues or quality of the fields, although all are important. It is in the quality of the competition. If you were a lover of the sport of tennis, played locally, maybe at your club's tournaments, but had the chance to share the court with Pete Sampras, you would probably jump at the chance. And, if you happened to win a game, or even a point, it would make your Millennium (pardon the pun). Most Novice or Amateur B teams won't win prizes, and do not play for the chance to walk away with paintball goodies. In the States, they play to share the field with Ground Zero, Avalanche, Dynasty, Aftershock, the Ironmen teams, the All A's, etc. I'm sure the same is true across the pond. That is why you want the novice/am b teams to have at least one pro game in their schedule.

The Amateur A's are their because, (a) they are sandbagging pros trying to fund their paintball addiction by winning and selling the prizes offered (Strange way to go about it), (b) they are in a limbo state, too good to play novice, but not competitive enough to mix it up with the pros, or (c) in a developmental stage where Amateur A is just the next step in their progression to pro. Whatever the reason, they are committed and will play the circuit as regulars. You don't encourage them to move up by giving them the competition from thre pros that they desire, the ability to play and hold, rather than the need to go for the flag and score the points of a hang.

My rant for the week.

 

[manike]

Originally posted by Jerry Braun
(Strange way to go about it)

Lovely, just lovely. Such subtlety and style

Maybe see you at your big game again Jerry

Simon

 

[Beaker]

Jerry,

I completely agree, with last years Millenniums most of my highlights involved playing a Pro team. Mugging Richie Mau of Image (sp?) off the break in Denmark, beating Banzai at Mayhem and taking more points eliminations off Bob Longs at Toulouse (although only 3!) than ANY team did until the semi's.

And your points about Am A's are spot on IMHO. Especially as a lot of them are as good as a lot of "pro" teams but choose not to play them. therefore, the other Am A's are still getting near enough the same level of competition as they would if you included a couple of Pro's teams into their games.

 

[Micah]

Thanks Jerry, I never thought about it that way. It all makes sence to me now.