Or someone else that is confident with "the Chicago model" of making playing schedules mabe can explain the algorithm used here?
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I too haven't found anyone who is willing (or able!) to explain it 
if you find anyone please let me know !
if you find anyone please let me know !
Att. Jerry Braun
OK. 1. Determine the number of pro and novice teams that are competing and the number of preliminary games to be played by each team (in the NPPL, its 8, the Millennium has 10).
2. Snake the pros, amateurs and novice seperately into morning and afternoon groupings.
3. Snake the novice under the pros so that each novice team plays a pro. Example: If there are 60 novice teams and 12 pros, each pro will end up playing 5 novice teams.
Usually, it won't be so even. Maybe 12 pros and 57 novice. If that happens fill in the bottom schedule with the lower ranked amateurs beginning with the last rank and working your way up.
4. Now resnake the pros such that the remainder of the pro schedule has pros playing pros. Try to keep morning with morning and afternoon with afternoon. If that is not possible and one division has both morning and afternoon pro teams, schedule their games on the "cusp" between the morning and afternoon break times on the two days of preliminary play (or within one hour of such break times). The pro schedule is now complete.
5. Snake the amateurs and the novice teams so that each novice plays about three amateurs (keep morning with morning and afternoon with afternoon). Finish the schedule with novice playing novice teams, and amateur playing amateur teams. Use the snake to determine who plays whom.
OK????
OK. 1. Determine the number of pro and novice teams that are competing and the number of preliminary games to be played by each team (in the NPPL, its 8, the Millennium has 10).
2. Snake the pros, amateurs and novice seperately into morning and afternoon groupings.
3. Snake the novice under the pros so that each novice team plays a pro. Example: If there are 60 novice teams and 12 pros, each pro will end up playing 5 novice teams.
Usually, it won't be so even. Maybe 12 pros and 57 novice. If that happens fill in the bottom schedule with the lower ranked amateurs beginning with the last rank and working your way up.
4. Now resnake the pros such that the remainder of the pro schedule has pros playing pros. Try to keep morning with morning and afternoon with afternoon. If that is not possible and one division has both morning and afternoon pro teams, schedule their games on the "cusp" between the morning and afternoon break times on the two days of preliminary play (or within one hour of such break times). The pro schedule is now complete.
5. Snake the amateurs and the novice teams so that each novice plays about three amateurs (keep morning with morning and afternoon with afternoon). Finish the schedule with novice playing novice teams, and amateur playing amateur teams. Use the snake to determine who plays whom.
OK????
I kinda get it but any chance you could please mail me a spreadsheet or something which shows it written down.
Also is the snake left to right then left to right or left to right then right to left like Millennium used to be?
I also presume ranking is by current series standing then alphabetically (as before?).
Thanks for the info though!
but any chance you could please mail me a spreadsheet or something which shows it written down.Also is the snake left to right then left to right or left to right then right to left like Millennium used to be?
I also presume ranking is by current series standing then alphabetically (as before?).
Thanks for the info though!
I think I get it!
You refer to something called "snake". Maybe you can explain that a little bit too?
Thanks a bunch for the help so far!
# Jon
You refer to something called "snake". Maybe you can explain that a little bit too?
Thanks a bunch for the help so far!
# Jon
A snake goes like this, where the letters are the different divisions, and the numbers represent the teams from ranking and alphabetical order:-
A......B......C......D......E......F
1.......2......3......4......5......6
12....11....10.....9......8......7
13....14....15....16....17....18
24....23....22....21....20....19
I hope that came out right.
manike
A......B......C......D......E......F
1.......2......3......4......5......6
12....11....10.....9......8......7
13....14....15....16....17....18
24....23....22....21....20....19
I hope that came out right.
manike
Trying to figure it out...
But as I understand it no amateur teams will play against pro teams, correct?
Also; how should I use the snake to determine the games inside the divisions?
Maybe someone can make a small example and it would be easier to understand...
But as I understand it no amateur teams will play against pro teams, correct?
Also; how should I use the snake to determine the games inside the divisions?
Maybe someone can make a small example and it would be easier to understand...
Beaker my man
Jon - as I understand it you work out Pro vs Novice, Pro vs Am, Am vs Nov etc seperately
Then you total up each teams games, there are no "Divisions" so each team will have a different schedule / oppositions
I believe the expresion is - DOH!
Jon - as I understand it you work out Pro vs Novice, Pro vs Am, Am vs Nov etc seperately
Then you total up each teams games, there are no "Divisions" so each team will have a different schedule / oppositions
Beaker
I understand from the first post from Jerry that there is no traditional divisions, rather single games are decided this way. But as far as I understand from Jerrys explanation you don't pick any games between pro an am _unless_ the number of pro teams don't divide the number of novice team. Maybe I missunderstod this but thats the way I read it.
Also; Jerrys example doesn't clearly say how many games each pro should play against am teams, this is what made me think that there is no games between pro and am (unless the number of novice teams......). I know (from Joy masters where the system was used) that there should be som games between pro and am so I would very much like to have this part explained too.
Best regards
# Jon
I understand from the first post from Jerry that there is no traditional divisions, rather single games are decided this way. But as far as I understand from Jerrys explanation you don't pick any games between pro an am _unless_ the number of pro teams don't divide the number of novice team. Maybe I missunderstod this but thats the way I read it.
Also; Jerrys example doesn't clearly say how many games each pro should play against am teams, this is what made me think that there is no games between pro and am (unless the number of novice teams......). I know (from Joy masters where the system was used) that there should be som games between pro and am so I would very much like to have this part explained too.
Best regards
# Jon