Are Euro teams getting better?

[TJ Lambini]

So, Euro teams ARE getting closer to the US level, seeing as how it USED to be possible to qualify easy, with the help of a few US pros..... but it no longer is?

Is that the concensous?

Yes, I agree there is still some way to go, but any improvement is good in my book

Nick

There are only two world class Euro teams now, Russkies and Joy - that's tha lowest number I can remember dude. Tontons, relegated, Shock, relagated, Tigers, dead in tha water, Nexus, looking like they are gonna be relegated...

I think the gap is widening, not closing.

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Hmm

I have to disagree... I think the Euro level is better now than it has ever been. - teams like Joy, Menace, Shockwave, the Ducks and the Tontons, are playing better than they ever have before.

It would be cool if XSV brought their A line up for Campaign, so we could see where these teams stand comparatively.

Nick

 

[TJ Lambini]

Hmm

I have to disagree... I think the Euro level is better now than it has ever been. - teams like Joy, Menace, Shockwave, the Ducks and the Tontons, are playing better than they ever have before.

It would be cool if XSV brought their A line up for Campaign, so we could see where these teams stand comparatively.

Nick

Shock have won Millenniums in tha past - with all due respect to the current team, I would say there have been Shock squads in tha past, containing Matty, Giles etc. in their prime, that were better.

Tontons are not playing better than ever - they used to be a force in tha NPPL, now they field US guests even in Europe.

Ducks used to be a powerhouse team that were a good bet for a top 4 finish in tha Mill - not now.

And even if tha Euros are playing twice as well as they used to, we are playing maybe four times better.

As I said, Joy and Russians are flying the flag and flying it damn well, though evn tha Russians have got a lot of Americans. You got to hand it to Mag - his policy of keeping it local and training like mutha****ers has made them a real force and is to be applauded long and hard. Joy doesn't get the credit it deserves on these forums - I think that team is respected more in the US than in Europe and should get more plaudits.

 

[Matski]

If 6 of the best US pro teams bought their A squads over for a mill (hypothetically obviously), what would the top 4 look like at the end of the event? Would you bet against 3-4 of them being US teams?

With the odd exception, the placings would be the same as they used to be when Lanche, Ironmen, Dynasty, GZ et al etc used to come over. So what's changed? Two or three teams have gotten better through hard work and can hold their own, but that dosn't suggest anything has changed across the whole spectrum.

 

[Red_Merkin]

Nick, maybe if you went to the states to watch the calibur of teams there, you'd understand how far behind Europeans are falling.

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Nick, maybe if you went to the states to watch the calibur of teams there, you'd understand how far behind Europeans are falling.

Please don't patronise me Colin

 

[TJ Lambini]

Please don't patronise me Colin

Or at least if you do, be sure and spell caliber right.



That said Nik, he has a point - most Euros do not see American teams any more, so it is kinda tough to judge.

 

[Liz]

Or at least if you do, be sure and spell caliber right.

Or even spell calibre right!

 

[TJ Lambini]

Or even spell calibre right!

I meant proper American English.

Plus there's more of us than you - caliber wins.

 

[ThreeD]

I think Paintball evolved so much more then ever before. So I am really wondering why everyone is stating the opposite. We never had so much tournament players in Europe, better markers for less money, more paintball halls and sites, sponsorships and cheaper paintballs and of course best innovation ever: reballs.

So why is Paintball in Europe not better now then the years before?