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"nil taurus excramentum"
Jan 20, 2004
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Originally posted by Neil (Campaign Power)
Sorry to confuse you.

I'll say it again. Paintball guns are not classified as air weapons. I'm not trying to reason with any act of parliament as they can all be interpreted in different ways. All I can say is that I have looked into it and now know what constitutes an offence as far as the 29,000 coppers in the met are concerned.

If you need more guidance I suggest you contact a solicitor, as I can help no further. If they are air weapons the limitations placed could possibly harm all site operators in the uk and may even put some out of business. I am assured this is not the case.

I hope you have more success getting a more definitive answer than me.

neil m8 i sympathise lol.i understand u 110% & am not gettin me dictionary out or my student grant to smart u fella lol.i think niel has as much knoledge at the end of the day lads ,SIMPLE he is a copper& i think he has more knoledge 1st hand on the matter.example yes u would get locked up for wavin it around town& i think its daft to question a man who is helpin to answer the thread & who is paid to enforce the law ofr a livin, theres no substitue for hands on experience ,they guy doesnt want a deb8 he just bein helpfull,tsk tsk .my mother used to have a saying ,dont be flipent son! PSML;) ;) its like preaching to the converted:D ;)
 

Flash-Bugout

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Or the law of the land ;)

It seems this point is becoming slightly laboured, but I'd just like to conclude by saying:

You're not sure of the millennium series rules on starting procedure, do you

a: consult a judge on field

or

b: consult the rulebook

The sheer variety of starting procedures accross various fields in various millennium events should illustrate my point nicely :)
 

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"nil taurus excramentum"
Jan 20, 2004
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remeber that seen in the monty python 'holy graile' were the french were givin it loads lol .thats what comes to mind hehhehehe ! A 2ND TIME!.hehehehe.comon neil ding ding round threre ugotta exel @ this :D ;) .its your field ;) go for it m8:cool: ;)

some 1 has to put this straight;) :) :cool: ;)
 

Bully

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Steve's points

In all posts there is an element that is correct but therea re also a few points that need making.

The limit to take a marker over 12ft/lbs is nearer 335fps, minor point.

I have had regular conversations and letters exchanged with the Home Office and one of the points mentioned by the powers that be is "The paintball industry has regulated itself over the years resulting in very few incidents with paintballers (not idoits) where the HO have been asked to comment on a situation"

The file on paintball contains very few documents the file on air guns fills cabinets.

That is because as a sport we self regulate.

It is true that the HO don't class paintball markers in the same file as air guns, that is because of the frangible nature of a paintball. Basically a paintball would break but an air pellet could break the skin and do more damage.

So what does this mean - well if we could not careless about our sport then we will let everyone go around with markers dialled up to any limit , with full auto boards, and shooting s..t out of joe public.

We don't so we set the rules guided by the HO. If we stick inside excisting rules then we will not have a problem.

Are we suggesting we get rid of all our rules because the met police don't think a paintball marker is classified as an air weapon?????

I think we should stick with the guidelines we issue and continue to run our sport within the guidelines issued.

On three other points

The HO have always said to me "Whilst they don't consider paintball markers in the same light as an air rifle if an incident happened and it went to court and a court decided that the marker was "Dangerous" then this sets the standard and then the law could be changed" .

About twelve months ago I was contacted by a solicitor to write a letter for their client to present to court explaining that the paintball marker he had just used to shoot at people at a bus stop when he drove by was not a firearm. I wrote the letter to defend our sport I could not careless about the individual. He was being prosecuted under a firearm offence as well as other charges. The firearms charge was dropped but he was sentenced to ??? (not 100% sure)

Finally in a confidential report produced by the Scotland Yard it is said "Paintballing is providing a ready supply of guns that are being converted into lethal weapons" (quote from the independent newspaper) I contacted the Met police with regards to this report and I am still awiting a reply from the Assistant Commisioner who wrote the report. They have not even had the courtesy to acknowledege my e mails. I appreciate that this is not "at the action end police" but if the top men consider paintball markers a threat then we must make sure as a sport that we do not give them fuel to light the fire.

These are my comments for what they are worth

Steve

I have just re read the post and it looks like I am knocking Neil and the Met police - I am not and apologise if it looks like that.
 

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"nil taurus excramentum"
Jan 20, 2004
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at last we gotta a real good insight!.bully icant argue with that m8:cool: well put & well addressed.;) ithink we should do a petion to lobby the lazzy fat arses to give u an answer.democracsy is a fine thing is it not lol.this policy seems to be pie in the sky or someone being payed far to much is saT ON THE ARSE!.steve thnx for a finer light& we presented:)
 

JoseDominguez

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We won't get an answer until some tool gets charged with an offence under the firearms act. Then we'll have a test case and know where we stand.............. hopefully it will never come up.
 
So, as I understand it in laymans terms, unless you dial up your marker above 330 fps or stick it into fully Auto a paintball marker is not covered by the provisions of Sec. 5 of the firearms act.

And provided we regulate and educate our participants to not exceed perceived bounadries of acceptable behaviour we will remain self regulating. But if too many instances of misuse of equipment occour then courts may set a legal precidence on the interpretation of the law with regards to paintball which in turn may lead to formal regulation.

I fink I have got it !