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Matski

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They are called Jehovah's.

Missy - if Chuck Norris was the only one capable of stopping this then, sadly, it may well be the case. The government have had him 'meeting and greeting' troops over in Eye-Rack lately. No doubt a cleverly planned distraction.
 

Missy-Q

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They are called Jehovah's.

Missy - if Chuck Norris was the only one capable of stopping this then, sadly, it may well be the case. The government have had him 'meeting and greeting' troops over in Eye-Rack lately. No doubt a cleverly planned distraction.
Something tells me he's looking in the wrong place. Eye-rakkies would rather pluck out their own eyes than lose their belief-system, and besides, all their scientists are busy working on WOMD's, aren't they?
 

Matski

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Someone knows a little too much. I'm starting to think the mastermind of the operation resides in Harlem.
 

Mactoshdog

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My question is, if we finally proved the universe actually did spontaneously create itself (there are guys working on this as we speak , who are also getting uncomfortably close to proving it)
why is it uncomfortably close?
i would have thought it a good thing if they were coming to a conclusion

as far as religeon gose, i think it is starting to go past the idear of one all powerfull god, and is becoming more about living a good life, as a kind honest person, such as charity, helping others, and generaly not being a selfish tw*t.
while i think their would definetly be lots of people simply ignoring that facts, and continuing to do the good work their doing. like all things i think true relegion
(by that i mean people who are not just using it as an excuse for a day off work or to go and have a fight about)
would slowly start to change/evolve to go along with the findings, such as christianity has done already, by people saying thing like, "well, the world was literaly made in 7 days, but the general teaching i belive"
 

tshaka zulu

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Well, I'm one of those wacky individuals who believes that science and spirituality are not at odds. I think it well beyond the realm of science to ever prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is no God. I say that as a man who has studied biological psychology (neuroscience) and has a fairly solid grasp of theory and the scientific method.

Bottom line is that science is here to explain the natural and it does so quite nicely. Spirituality deals with those things which are currently beyond the abilities of scientists to explain naturally. There are things, I'm sure, which had no explanation and now do...thus are no longer in the realm of the spiritual (medieval concept of spontaneous generation, now 'abiogenesis'), but I chalk that up to time and technology just moving us closer to uncovering what truly is natural and what is supernatural.

I believe that no matter how far in the direction of showing supernatural occurrences to have more ordinary beginnings, it will only help clarify that which truly is beyond our temporal/finite understanding or perception. I know I've deviated from the primary supposition required to have this discussion, but the flaw therein is having to believe that the notion of a Creator can be proven to be false as well as I think others have done a good job of answering what any zealots or religious hold-outs would do in such a case anyway.
 

GoldEdition

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Most religions are based on astrological type stuff anyways then the stories came after. Right from the time man evolved to modern beliefs.

Religion to me is just words that try and make people better and the world a better place. However as we evolove more we seem to forget that these were simply storys from wise and or wonderful people.

The problem with religion to me is people use it as a weapon whether that be for money or power or security or whatever they still use it as a tool.

If everyone just said ok there was a "thing" that we can call god (in my mind the universe itself is god and created itself) "its" name does not matter, neither does it matter which story or which wise man told it. Then everyone will get on alot better and make the world how "god" wanted it.

Do i think i will go to a lovely place when i die? Do i believe i wil go to a horrible place when i die? No is the simple answer to both. Do i believe that i will live forever 'at piece' then yes i do. Quite simply we are making history right now however small our contribution, from being a brain surgeon to a scum bag who just carries a disease or poisons peoples minds, we are all still making a difference for the future. Even a scrum bag has a job to do in creating a future and a past because without them there would be no point in bettering ourselves or wanting to move forward these people are what motivates others to think act and want to be better :D


This is one of the most insiteful posts I have ever read on this forum.


You, kind sir, are an intellect of the highest order and you should take pride in such a title.
 

GoldEdition

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Well if I had to judge your intelligence as a person from that one post, I would have to say mensa candidate!