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dr.strangelove

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My personal opinion, I just cannot play with the Egg on my angel. It sits so high, and it's got a terrible shape, I could hardly even see around it to shoot. If you can get the HALO to work, try every means necessary. When you grease the belt, use like lithium grease, or love juice, or paintball oil.
 

Steve Hancock

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I've been having the exact same problem. Ir3 runs sweet with any loader except my nice new halo. I was advised to grease the drive belt.

If some one could give me an idea how to do this, or links to a step-by-step guide that would be a big help.

Cheers.:)
 

Ben Frain

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Steve, from my experience (I had the same problem) greasing the belt which involves taking the drive assembly apart made little discernable difference (on two seperate Halo B's).

The key is the Halo, not the Angel. When you get a Halo that works with Angels, it will work with all Angels. Get a Halo that doesn't like your Angel, chances are it won't work with a great many other Angels, even dual detent models like the Speed and A4.

Try someone elses Halo who runs an Angel, chances are it will run without a hitch on yours also.

The one thing that did alleviate the problem considerably for me when using an IR3 was the ram stroke adjustment. I adjusted it so there was an obvious 'clunk' every time I opened and shut the breech. Perhaps it has some affect one the bolt positioning, I don't know for sure except it did help...

Personally I would try the ram stroke adjustment as it is a simple procedure if you have the tool kit. It can be done without the tool kit, just not as quickly. If it still doesn't work after that, get another Halo and sell that one!
 

Steve Hancock

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My housemate’s halo works fine on his LCD. I might try his halo on my angel and vice-versa.

I had a go at greasing the drive belt last night. I used ACI air-lube first and when I tested the force that the halo exerted with my finger it wasn’t much different. Then I tried some shocker-lube, which reduced the force significantly.

You might be able to help me here as well.:p
 

WingNut

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Just another thought, read thisd on another forum, for ALL A4 user to properly check that their SENSI is functioning properly.

Fill the loader about half way, put he marker in SENSI 1, then calibrate the SENSI. Once that paint runs out, you don't have to let it rip like ad to do this, if functioning properly, and with SENSI turned on and CALIBRATED correctly, then the marker should only allow about one shot per second.

This way you'll know for sure that the marker is performing as it should and it's not just the HALO.

If SENSI is working and the marker is in SENSI 1, then there should be absolutely NO CHOPPING WHATSOEVER........ period.....

I can't understand how all these people can be blaming the HALO, or any other loader come to mention it, if they have a correctly callibrated and functioning SENSI.

My understanding of the SENSI, according to the manual, is that even if you were to use a non-morised loader, like the old pluming pipe versions about 10-15 years ago, then there should still be no chopping issues.......
 

Ben Frain

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The problem with the Halo though Russ is that some of them when used in Angels seem to have the ability to break/fracture paint before it is even loaded into the breech. Whether this is because of the gated feed, Angel bolt design/travel distances, breech size etc I am not sure but it certainly happens with a great many Halo's, not all but a lot. Perhaps the difference between a 'good' or 'bad' Halo is just the difference in torque caused by the varying manufacturing tolerances in Halo's??

With Angels the 'bad' Halo problem is usually characterised by all the chops being in the breech and bolt area and the marker will literally be firing soup e.g. you are firing unshelled/broken paint rather than balls that have just been broken and come out part shell/part soup (usually caused by bad paint or a genuine bolt chop). It is difficult to describe but if you are chopping about 10-20% of the balls you fire and you are running a Halo on Sensi 1 on your Speed/A4 or COPS on your IR3 you can be failry certain it's due to this problem.
 

WingNut

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Maybe your right guys....

Maybe i'm just lucky that my HALO is one of the Angel Lovers. I bought a brand new A4 for a guy in my team, then bought a HALO and they worked fine together (with SENSI on).

On another note, that SENSI check should work though. I did it with mine (yours Ben:D ) and then got curious. So I took it to bits and found out that the SENSI has a crack in it.

But, like you say, every problem is different.......;)
 

dr.strangelove

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Another noteworthy observation, the HALO that blends paint on my IR3, works fine with my A4 as I mentioned before, and also works fine with my LCD.