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thekid

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yep will do,

u know u may have summat there cos the second time i fireda full hopper, i started off real slow,then let the bitch have it!!.....hmm
u say full tilt on the rof??

ok ill try this out tomorrow and let u know

cheers
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Ben Frain

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Look, RTFM, that's what it's for, details of all modes and what they do are in there in plain English. If you don't have the manual, download it from www.wdp.tv

Sensi 1+3 will not let you chop if calibrated properly each time you power on the marker (no need to calibrate if just going from safe to live). Contrary to common belief you don't HAVE to fire slowly to calibrate. The Angel speed and 4 both cap the firing rate to 13BPS until the board calibrates your loader, then it ups it to whatever your loader can sustane (upto 31BPS limit of the marker).

If you are running with sensi 1 or 3 definately on and you are chopping, as others have already stated it is more than likely the loader (some Halo's don't work well on Angels). Try a different one.

So in summary, read the manual, make sure you are using sensi mode 1 or 3 and try a different loader such as an Evo II. If it is still chopping then, post up and we can all trouble shoot you further. But meet us half way here and at least read the manual so you know what you are doing. :)
 

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Originally posted by Benfrain
Look, RTFM, that's what it's for, details of all modes and what they do are in there in plain English. If you don't have the manual, download it from www.wdp.tv

Sensi 1+3 will not let you chop if calibrated properly each time you power on the marker (no need to calibrate if just going from safe to live). Contrary to common belief you don't HAVE to fire slowly to calibrate. The Angel speed and 4 both cap the firing rate to 13BPS until the board calibrates your loader, then it ups it to whatever your loader can sustane (upto 31BPS limit of the marker).

If you are running with sensi 1 or 3 definately on and you are chopping, as others have already stated it is more than likely the loader (some Halo's don't work well on Angels). Try a different one.

So in summary, read the manual, make sure you are using sensi mode 1 or 3 and try a different loader such as an Evo II. If it is still chopping then, post up and we can all trouble shoot you further. But meet us half way here and at least read the manual so you know what you are doing. :)
Ben, you know you mention you dont ahve to fire slowly when calibrating the marker, well everywhere i have read it has been said that you do have to, as wouldnt some people just play with out calibrating as it would calibrate as they played so they were doing it without even knowing?
 

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Originally posted by Benfrain
Exactly, that's why it works the way it does. :confused:

Some people don't read the manual, but it doesn't matter if they don't because it calibrates for them anyhow :)

Check out this link for more info on the calibration...

http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?t=16241
Ben thats what i mean, all these people with problems with the sensi, simply because it hasnt been calibrated, but if it does work the way you describe then why would they have the problems in the first place, there shouldnt be any if it calibrates it for them without them even knowing surely?
 

thekid

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easy tiger!!

going to read manual ,b4 someone gets the tit on with me again!!:D


but thanks lads,been a big help .ill post back later when ive done what uve all said!!
 

Ben Frain

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LOL. didn't mean to cause you offence, I just know that it will all seem a lot less alien to you once you've read it.

Liam, I don't think there is a problem once people use sensi :) modes 1+3, no risk of chops. Modes 2+4 - slight risk of chops. That's really all there is to it. Can't understand why anyone would want to run it without sensi by choice though??

I do think there is a problem with Halo's and Angels but that has always been an issue. Having said that, I run my 4 with a Halo and have zero problems so far with chops.
 

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Originally posted by Benfrain
LOL. didn't mean to cause you offence, I just know that it will all seem a lot less alien to you once you've read it.

Liam, I don't think there is a problem once people use sensi :) modes 1+3, no risk of chops. Modes 2+4 - slight risk of chops. That's really all there is to it. Can't understand why anyone would want to run it without sensi by choice though??

I do think there is a problem with Halo's and Angels but that has always been an issue. Having said that, I run my 4 with a Halo and have zero problems so far with chops.
True the manula NEEDS to be read to understand the marker fully, Ben that wasnt the point i was trying to make, no big deal just wandered as it didnt really make sense, as all these people with problems with the sensi, simply because it hasnt been calibrated, but if it does work the way you describe then why would they have the problems in the first place, there shouldnt be any if it calibrates it for them without them even knowing surely?What do u think?:)
 

Ben Frain

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Liam, I am not disagreeing with you. What I am saying is, I wasn't aware there were lots of people having problems with Sensi. If there are people having problems to do with Speeds/A4's I don't think it is anything to do with sensi calibration.

Perhaps their Sensi hardware broke, dwell too high, LPR wrong, pressure not right, incorrect sensi mode selected/sensi not on, paint/barrel match wrong etc

The Sensi/COPS catches a lot of flak but I have never really had a problem with chops in either IR3 or Speed/A4 markers that didn't get narrowed down to something else, such as a dodgy Halo for example.

However, this is just my personal opinion/experience of course :)