An interesting thought on Huntington Beach Super 7...

[manike]

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
I was just ****ting you guys cos Manike's casting aspersions on my fellow countrymen's judging...

Nah, I was just thinking that a lot of USA judging that I have been subject to has been, lax, biased or just downright hysterical. (admittedly I haven't played as many USA events as some and that the ones I have tend to be blasted by all for their bad judging).

As part of a European team in the USA, I never felt we were competing on even ground against some of the more well known teams. Some of the 'judging excuses' for favouring home teams were just hysterical. I love the fact they are working to improve the judging for the S7, and that Magued's team got such respect for their judging.

I like anything that means the Euro's have more chance of winning in the USA. And better judging is, in my opinion, one of those things

 

[manike]

 

[TJ Lambini]

You sound just like your girlfriend Goose...



And Man, for every Euro that goes home having been dicked by a ref, there's a US team coming back from Europe with tha same story - whether you guys hear it or not.

And Euro teams have made tha finals at NPPLs in tha past - Banzai, NWC and Preds I believe. Were any of them ever good enough to win?

Maybe tha Preds that one time? Were they cheated out of an historic victory? Ask Robo...

 

[Baca Loco]

Tj thats not true..

Originally posted by Magued
TonTon didnt help set up any field. 2 guys from adrenaline and Laurent helped us inflate and sort outthe bunkers but Laurent made really sure that he wasnt involved to set up the field. I set up all the fields.
But it is a worthy point, first time ever they didnt get punished beacuse there not american and they finished 2nd!! And make no misstake about it Euros have been treated like **** at most Us events reffing wise.
Skyball
World cup
Pittsburg
etc etc

I know have seen it first hand.

Magued

Interesting Mag, as Phil Dominguez, in praising the dedication of the Swedes and the TonTons who lost some vacation time when you all were "drafted" to help to get everything ready in time for the tournament said between the two groups you laid out the fields.
Now I suppose Phil may have unintentionally overstated the TonTons contribution and I can only go by what he said. If you say it was different then that's fine.

But while we're at it were you present at the Captain's Meeting when it was decided bare feet would not be allowed on the playing fields?
If so can you explain why there was at least one TonTon player allowed to play bare foot the entire tournament?

 

[manike]

You sound just like your girlfriend Goose...

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
And Man, for every Euro that goes home having been dicked by a ref, there's a US team coming back from Europe with tha same story - whether you guys hear it or not.

Yeah I've heard it, they are usually complaining about being eliminated for being hit or getting one for one's for playing on... Heaven forbid

All the top USA teams I talk to, GZ, Dynasty, Avalanche, Redz, etc. all say they love playing here and one of the reasons is the better reffing

 

[TJ Lambini]

>>>whether you guys hear it or not<<<

Remember that bit?

 

[Johan]

You are funny!!

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by manike
Nah, I was just thinking that a lot of USA judging that I have been subject to has been, lax, biased or just downright hysterical. (admittedly I haven't played as many USA events as some and that the ones I have tend to be blasted by all for their bad judging).

As part of a European team in the USA, I never felt we were competing on even ground against some of the more well known teams. Some of the 'judging excuses' for favouring home teams were just hysterical. I love the fact they are working to improve the judging for the S7, and that Magued's team got such respect for their judging.

I like anything that means the Euro's have more chance of winning in the USA. And better judging is, in my opinion, one of those things

What y'all seem determined to view as some sorta anti-Euro bias is nothing of the sort. The reality has been that in large part if your team wasn't part of the "in" crowd--for lack of a better term--you were on the outside and plenty of other US teams got the same treatment you guys seem to think was your special treatment.

 

[goose]

TJ...

You sound just like your girlfriend Goose...

You forgot the last thing she usually says after a visit from you - "Too bad his fingers are the largest part of his body - and he is a lot "faster" in other ways"



goose

 

[manike]

Yeah, did you notice where I quoted it?

Funny that a lot of these guys talk to me about all aspects of the events, and that when reporting such events I go out of my way to talk to them... I don't think there's been many USA teams at Millennium events that I haven't talked to and gotten their comments.

Which events were you at? Which teams are you talking about? I expect I can even go back through my notes and get quotes for you