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Nick Brockdorff

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This will be fairly long ;)

First - the positives (and they are many):

What a great event!

Best layout of a European venue to date.... everything was close by for the players!

The new turf is awesome - plays like lush freshly cut grass, but without the problems that weather or repeated use may create.

Disney is a fantastic venue, and the amount of non-paintballers that stopped by and watched games, surpassed any other European event before.

Airsupply was great as usual with H-pac

Toilets and paintsupply situated close by and toilets kept nice and clean all weekend (I DO think however, that the paint suppliers would have liked to have been issued ear protection, because 3 days of listening to paint being shot continously into a metal container 20 feet away, must have left those poor guys semi-deaf!).

Great to be able to hand in scoresheets right in the players area.

Security seemed to be fairly tight.

Tradeshow was great.

All the security and event staff was extremely courteous and pleasant.

The negatives:

What was up with the announcers? - It seemed like they had no idea what they were talking about, and were forced to backtrack and correct announcements all the time! - PLEASE have someone manning the microphone who knows what is going on at the next event (the girls looked cute though... but that is rather beside the point ;))

The games were allowed to fall extremely far behind schedule on the first day, with no apparent reason.

And finally:

- Yes.... as usual... the reffing is not good enough.

None of our results (or lack thereof) were due to poor reffing.... so these are very general comments, based on a lot of games I spectated..... and I found a lot of room for improvement!

There are some really good and dedicated refs in the MS reffing squad, and they work their butts off trying to cover for their less talented colleagues.... but most of the refs seem to be too timid to penalise playing on and wiping, and too keen on penalising little things (like a barrel being 1 inch away from the backboard at the start, or a player voicing malcontent or whatever).

I think a change of focus would be a good idea.... because at the moment, too many of the teams at our level and in division 1 are getting away with murder in many games.... and we will continue to do so, as long as many refs choose not to penalise "us" for playing on.... and focus more of the little things that are not really game altering penalties.

Once refs start to pull those penalties consistently, the cheating will drop off to a level where it is much less game altering than it is now.

Field position of the refs is still horrible in many instances, where refs position themselves so they are looking at players from the back, and also, even after 3 days of play, still are not in position to watch paint going in on runners that take 40 and 50 bunkers that teams have been taking all weekend.

Honestly, I don't understand why it is so hard?.... the ultimate could spend 1 hour at each field the first day, take notes of the most common breakouts and most commonly used bunkers at breakout (expecially for the teams in the upper divisions, because the teams in the lower ones will copy that as the event progresses), and then set up field position for each field according to that - for the remainder of the event (with the field ultimate having some discretion to change things ofcourse).

- and then ofcourse instruct the refs that they are supposed to stay ahead of the players, and move to be in a position to see players during anticipated moves, rather than tagging along behind them!

That having been said, it also seems like the MS is underpopulating the fields with refs..... for instance on the JT field, the two corner tombstones on the players area side, were left completely unguarded for most of the weekend, allowing players to wipe time and time again, and never getting caught....

If the MS wants the most important part of their events - the reffing - to work..... the NEED not only to do more training, but also to hire enough refs so that every field has 10 refs..... you CANNOT effectively ref a modern day 7 man field with fewer refs!

- And it's not like those extra 2-3 refs per field would kill the budget.... is it? ;)

Last, refs also seem to have been instructed too harshly to NOT call players neutral.... and so they allow the player to hide hits from them, because the ref does not want to interfere with play..... I saw a LOT of players get hit this weekend, and then just change their body position to hide the hit from the ref, thereby making it impossible for the ref to check them properly, without calling them neutral..... and so the refs just fiddled about a bit looking at the players from different angles, and then called them clean.

I call on the MS to get the reffing sorted out..... because the cheating is getting worse and worse.... and every team out there is FORCED to start cheating more, if they want to compete.... because the refs are allowing their opponents to do so!

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I felt the event had some pretty bad points, like the Chrono station of death to start with, and the fact that the fields were not cleaned off at the end of the day ready for the next morning, so paint was just left lying on the field building up for days. We still had more BS with the gun rules, I hope they have the rules sorted ready for Birmingham as the Millennium need to get it sorted out and go with some rules that they can have the reffs enforce. The lack of litter bins and the general mess of the place, I mean yeah great it was in Disney and we got a few outside spectators to come in and see how messy the place was, I felt it could have been done a lot better.
Nice try but your still behind the NPPL by some margin.
 

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Nice sum up for the tournament Nick. The best tournament yet?

I would like to say something about the fields, AGAIN.

The way some of the field are designed they work as equalisers.
The amont of bunkers used and design causes this.

How many Pro teams lost against lower div teams on the Millenium field compared to the JT field feks? I saw Dynasty use almost 6 min on a third div team on that field, aggresive field?

To get to the 50 brick on the Millennium field you had to move 3-4 times and when you got there you could not get a good shot on any of the 3 diagonal bunkers................that is a good payoff after you have moved 3 times with the risk of beeing shot..........

I don't know how the field designers think when they first design a field like JT/Tomahawk and then Millenium /Dye. The first two were the 50 bunker could destroy the hole team and the second two were the 50 could not shoot out the opositions 40 bunker.

Another thing with the cluttered fiels and a lot of standing bunkers it is easy to for the paint to bounce of bunkers and cause eliminations, we lost 4 player due to balls bouncing of other bunkers........we would have gone throught we 3 more alive.....

What I am saying is that there is a lot of parameters that we can not easily do much about to "level" the playing field but the field design should be easy to do something about.

See you all in Birmingham, hopefully with less bunkers on the field


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Nick Brockdorff

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Christian

As said before Paris, I originally designed fields with fewer bunkers.... and then more were added by the MS later.... which removed some of the kill zones.

I agree that the fields are a little too cluttered.

BUT.... the powers that be in the MS want it different :)

- BTW... Dynasty wouldn't have played a Div. 3 team.... the draw doesn't work that way.

:)

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They did not enforce the gun rules. I know people still used PSP mode, even though it is not legal under the new rules and I know people turned the MROF up also. They simply did not have the equipment to enforce the rules so people took advantage of that fact and got away with it.
 
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Somanc 1st game against pheonix which was one of our pro teams.

Both teams break out and we dominated the snake with Lj and TJ breaking into it, I was just behind them, (This was one the JT Field).


pheonix dude attemps to run and bunker LJ who is in there half at this point but before he made it anywhere near i shot him and then our back centre guy shoots across field to the same guy.
Ref puls the guy out and TJ was shooting infield at this point so he didnt see the mugger.

TJ then gets back on his line and lets 1 or 2 shots at the pheonix dude........ the game was pretty much over at this point with somanc up on bodies i think 6 alive... Ref runs over the TJ and takes is Millenium card of him and banned him from the whole weekend..... for over kill what a load of bollocks.

The pheonix dude even tried to convince the Ref that this **** happends and in any case it should of resulted in TJ being eliminated and at worst a 1 for 1.......

This spoilt the event for TJ who was unfortunatly left wondering what the FCUK has gone on....


im sorry if im having a mown but i have never seen so many wrong calls this weekend against other teams that i didnt believe the Reffing was good enough on some fields...


The layout has great and trade shows where superb....

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Originally posted by Kevin
how did the gun rules workout ?
were players able to change their software to meet the new ramping rules ?
Change software? Anyone who plans on doing well in Millenium has had cheater software installed since the beginning of the season.
 

Jaime Menino

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Great Tournament in every small detail.

The Good:
Players area was great besides the small detail that some players found our staging area as a self service and bench for the JT field, stole our drinks and fruit (thanks a’ lot hope you get a huge case of diarrehia).
Air superb, as usual.
Toilets, they did the job they could be better, but they were clean between days.
The players area closed to general public and the easy access to the fields was great.
Playing surface was the bomb, great investment, I really think that all events should go for this type of surface, no more holes on the grassy fields from the constant wear and abuse.
Field design was ok, but I agree with some points told here about the excessive use of bunkers on some fields, I really doubt that some designs are helping the game as a show or any kind of tactics besides a pinball kind, or luck factor.
The stands the layout the free fruit, definitely the event that deserves the “World Cup” name.
Congrats to the team and people that put on the show.

The bad:
The reffing, generally most of the refs did a ok job, but some things need to be straighten up. There were people playing with PSP mode, people using ramping, people playing with no bps cap. Some teams could go in with special modes, some couldn’t, different rulings in the fields. We got to on one field to strip down all red, white and black stickers but one on each side on our markers, plain harassment and abuse of one rule.
Once again the commentators could be taught to shut the hell up, or speak in a common base language so that both teams playing get the information is telling.
Huge calls went to be made along the weekend, but I saw an improvement from the last event to this one.

Congrats for all the teams that won, the CL teams ruled as usual, was really hoping to see a XSV vs Dynasty rematch from last years 7MWC.

Jaime.