Originally posted by Red_Merkin
this thread isn't about full auto, it's about speed vs accuracy.
take the full auto preaching somewhere else please...
There's two things i want to add here.
1. accuracy counts when you have a shot on, and you need to make it. Speed wins when you have to fill a space with paint and try to hit someone running thru it, ( sweet spotting). Most modern guns are relativly accurate, and relativly fast, so in my opinion it's an issue of 'user interface' or how fast and accurate a particular person is with a specific gun.
2. sometimes speed is a hinderance, people get so wrapped up in shooting their guns fast that they forget to play tight, or shoot strait. It happens. To really good players too.
Kyle will vouch for me on this... Danchez picked up a timmy on the weekend, ran out, and got shot in 15 seconds because he forgot to look out for paint because he was focusing onripping the gun so fast.
what preaching? it was a discussion about SPEED...... started when silly fire rates were quoted and someone said certain markers got high fire rates due to bounce. Pretty relevant too, considering the problems with the system X select fire switch and all the controversy over the markers selected for X-ball........ sponsorship or ability to bounce?
My original point was that really high fire rates are a skill, therefore the player doing it has practiced and is probably better than those complaining anyway........ the opposite view was that most of these fire rates are due to "marker setup" anyway...... which if it's bouncing is against the rules and possibly illegal.
So, I think the real debate is whether insane fire rates are a skill or a marker issue. Why practice walking the trigger if it can be set up to do it for you?
As for accuracy........ it's a ball of goo...... there's not an awful lot more we can do to enhance accuracy without altering the ammo...... and you can't do that either. As long as the marker is legal, it should be limited by the hopper feeding it and the person pulling the trigger. As any of the current up to date markers are capable of high ROF's.
So, how many markers out there are getting high rates because of trigger set up? can I legitimately up my ROF from 12-15 bps just by swapping my marker? if so, what should I be firing? or what do I need to do to my trigger set up? as far as I'm concerned, the only thing I should be able to do to increase ROF is practice.... and once I reach the cap for the marker I'm using, trade up to a faster one...... but if some posts to be believed and high ROF isn't really a skill...... then do I just need a different marker?
My opinion on speed over accuracy? er well, you need both, there ya go..... if all you do is accurate snap shooting then you'll only hit players who hang out/haven't seen you etc... (anyone keeping tight will be gone by the time the ball gets to him) and if you have no accuracy.... then you''ll only ever get lucky hits. You need accuracy to put it were it's needed and speed to keep a string he'll pop out into.