5 year/ 3 year bottle test difference.
- Thread starter Slim Clan
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According to the information supplied direct to me from SCI themselves, this bottle is illegal. It needs a retest.
Why I hear you ask.......
Because it was made prior to July 2003 which was when the new regulations came into force. Once you have it retested, then it will be a 5 year test from then on.
I really do believe that H-PAC, and other companies are making some serious mistakes with the information they are supplying to players regarding these tanks. It clearly says in the email I received from Eddie at SCI about the July 2003 regulations ammendment.
Maybe site operators should check their public liability insurance details to check if they are covered by illegal tanks (out of date). Even if H-PAC or some other professional company are filling the tanks, if one blows, then I think you'll find that the site operator will be liable for this.
WingNut
Have you forwarded a copy of your email/ letter to UKPSF & H-Pac mate
Sounds like the sensible thing to do.
If true (no implication of false hood inferred)
Then this puts cylinder testers in a sticky situation
If you have had your bottle checked, told that it is legal and then subsequently told it is not then who is liable for the cost. How many people will not have a bottle for thier next tournie.
Cylinder testers get their information straight from the HSE, so what are they being told. You say for the sake of £25 get it tested, but not many testing centres will retest a bottle that they believe to be in test.
Have you forwarded a copy of your email/ letter to UKPSF & H-Pac mate
Sounds like the sensible thing to do.
If true (no implication of false hood inferred)
Then this puts cylinder testers in a sticky situation
If you have had your bottle checked, told that it is legal and then subsequently told it is not then who is liable for the cost. How many people will not have a bottle for thier next tournie.
Cylinder testers get their information straight from the HSE, so what are they being told. You say for the sake of £25 get it tested, but not many testing centres will retest a bottle that they believe to be in test.
'but not many testing centres will retest a bottle that they believe to be in test.'
And that unfortunetly is the problem, this testing center said that it was a five year cylinder (along with two others) i know it's only £25 but surely we should be getting the correct information and not getting cylinders tested just to keep people happy (assuming that the cylinder is actually in test) now i'm not saying that i wouldn't have a test done if it was a legal requirement, but i'm being told it isn't required.
What is required is a definitive list from an impartial but trustworthy and respected source, on all cylinders that are covered by the new legislation (in force i believe since may 2003)
This list can be adhered to and should enable us to have cylinders retested or not without fear of getting refused an air fill.
A.B
And that unfortunetly is the problem, this testing center said that it was a five year cylinder (along with two others) i know it's only £25 but surely we should be getting the correct information and not getting cylinders tested just to keep people happy (assuming that the cylinder is actually in test) now i'm not saying that i wouldn't have a test done if it was a legal requirement, but i'm being told it isn't required.
What is required is a definitive list from an impartial but trustworthy and respected source, on all cylinders that are covered by the new legislation (in force i believe since may 2003)
This list can be adhered to and should enable us to have cylinders retested or not without fear of getting refused an air fill.
A.B
I will do this tomorrow......
This is what I have posted already. The actual email from the manufacturers....... All clearly explained in laymans terms.
I will call someone tomorrow from one of the government agencies to get this sorted once and for all.
Looks like someones got to do it........
May as well be me.
I do agree, it's all getting a little confusing.
Whoops sorry dude, i'll re-read your post. i thought it only applied to SCI cylinders, and i took it with a pinch of salt.
Good luck with your call mate, lookin forward to reading the result
A.B
Good luck with your call mate, lookin forward to reading the result
A.B
Got a real busy week this week (so I found out this morning) so I've email the UKPSF and asked them if they can shed any light on this........
Testing
The UKPSF queried the 5 year test amendment months ago after we noticed the test specifications had been amended, we had not been informed by the manufacturers and the chances of the HSE letting us know of an amendment is close to zero.
I have a copy of the e mail and incidentally recieved another email from another source re the same subject. It does appear that when we queried the original change of test period the bit about bottles manufactured before a certain date was omitted.
Eddie Sands is the man in the know so what he says in the email will be correct. (He helps write the regulations for air bottles) I will double check with the HSE and speak to H-pac to clarify the situation. I will then update the UKPSF web site.
Steve
The UKPSF queried the 5 year test amendment months ago after we noticed the test specifications had been amended, we had not been informed by the manufacturers and the chances of the HSE letting us know of an amendment is close to zero.
I have a copy of the e mail and incidentally recieved another email from another source re the same subject. It does appear that when we queried the original change of test period the bit about bottles manufactured before a certain date was omitted.
Eddie Sands is the man in the know so what he says in the email will be correct. (He helps write the regulations for air bottles) I will double check with the HSE and speak to H-pac to clarify the situation. I will then update the UKPSF web site.
Steve
hey slim,
Any chance you could see to returning the Keltic Warriors fill rig back dude? sent you a pm pal but ya dingyed me?
give it to chunk or post it to us matey ,
we needin it
cheers pal
gc
Any chance you could see to returning the Keltic Warriors fill rig back dude? sent you a pm pal but ya dingyed me?
give it to chunk or post it to us matey ,
we needin it
cheers pal
gc
Steve,
Thanks for clearing this up............
Maybe the Mods could start a new thread with the FACTS in plain english, then sticky it.
Jus a suggestion............
Thanks for clearing this up............
Maybe the Mods could start a new thread with the FACTS in plain english, then sticky it.
Jus a suggestion............