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DIV 1 Reffing shenanigans...

Syd (NSPL)

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If we take the offered solution out of the equation, then a simple letter of complaint to the Millennium signed by all the Div One teams who are unhappy with the situation will be something the Millennium will have to reply to.

Some more input and response to this thread would also help. Just how many Div One teams feel that the situation is unfair?
 

vlad.nk

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Well, it is ment differently. In other words their worst current result was replaced by 100 points for reffing (points for Paris = 100 - their current worst points). This way only 4 events are scored for them like for others. In other words when they were reffing Paris it was like they were reffing their worst scorring event up to date.

The only advantage I can see against standard reffing gain is that they got the best possible gain by replacing their worst score. Against the day when you would teoretically achieve your best score but you were reffing thus your gain would not be that significant. Maybe better would be to count avarage from all 4 scores after the season and substract it from 100 point for Paris reffing. For teams whose positions does not vary signifcantly it does not make a big difference anyway. The only singularity you probably get is for example team which has 3 excelent scores and one really poor but this can happen in standard reffing point system as well. The probability any significant gain like this against standard reffing point system is probably divided into half as only two events are taken into account (they have to achieve their season's worst score in the first two events). Oh dear, I don't want to think about it that much:)

I think it is not that bad how it looks on the first look. You just have to relax from the fact the points are awarded for a non-scoring event. I believe you could find similar cases in the past when low positioned team jumped many positions after reffing.

PS: Believe me, I really do not like I acctually stand on MS side in this post but it is how I understand it. This one seems to me ok, our case is not.
 

Syd (NSPL)

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If the reffing teams get one point for Paris then it is not fair, regardless of how it is worked out.

Once again, I'd like to stress that I am not criticising the teams who reffed the event. I'm directing my criticism at the Millennium... first, for breaking their contract by making Paris an open event; and second, for allowing points to be awarded for the Paris event though it is a non-scoring event!

Dress it up how you like, it's not acceptable.
 

vlad.nk

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To markie c

How it is written and awardwd on the MS website now means they are awarded only for 4 events. Ref 100 points replace their worse result from Malaga or Bitburg. F. e. 2nd Scalp received 79 points for Paris, they scored 21 points in Malaga thus in other words they have 100 ref points for Malaga, 91 for Bitburg and 0 for Paris. The same for the rest 2 teams.

BTW: Many thanks for your words for us (NK), appreciated.
 

Luke W

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To markie c

How it is written and awardwd on the MS website now means they are awarded only for 4 events. Ref 100 points replace their worse result from Malaga or Bitburg. F. e. 2nd Scalp received 79 points for Paris, they scored 21 points in Malaga thus in other words they have 100 ref points for Malaga, 91 for Bitburg and 0 for Paris. The same for the rest 2 teams.

BTW: Many thanks for your words for us (NK), appreciated.
Explained that way, it seems more feasible, although I think the best way for them to have done it would have been the way you mentioned of 100 points minus the average of points of the four scoring rounds.

It's just a shock when you go on the Millenniums website to check if the information they said would be up by last Friday (which it wasn't, and still isn't, but there isn't much point starting another debate over that :rolleyes:) and see that you've dropped two places. :(
 

Syd (NSPL)

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How it is written and awardwd on the MS website now means they are awarded only for 4 events. Ref 100 points replace their worse result from Malaga or Bitburg. F. e. 2nd Scalp received 79 points for Paris, they scored 21 points in Malaga thus in other words they have 100 ref points for Malaga, 91 for Bitburg and 0 for Paris. The same for the rest 2 teams.
This is simply not true. They are scoring for five events.

Move the scores around and disguise it all you like... it doesn't change the fact that reffing teams earned points at the non-ranking paris event.