New Sales and Classifieds Rules
- Thread starter Lump
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I see the point has been missed yet again. Why do I bother? In fact, fcuk it - I'll not any more.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Interesting thread, seems to have caused a lot of passion here and there
Can I add my 2p not to stir things up but to try and help? The problem is that whilst the rules are a great idea and really aren't a problem for many people (especially me as a buyer not a seller) they're really not very well written
Case in point
"*A photograph of the goods being sold must be displayed with an Accurate Description , with username on a piece of paper and date, helps to stop people selling goods they don't actually have."
Now common sense tells me what that means, because I've seen it happen, however reading it properly, or for the first time, tells me that the *photo* must have an accurate description on it which is all well and good but I doubt anyone would be able to read an accurate description on a photo that could be better written as, for example:
"The for sale post must include an accurate description of the item and a photograph of the item described with your username and the current date clearly displayed on a piece of paper next to the item. This is to help prevent people selling items they do not have."
I know it seems trivial but if you have rules they've got to be clear cut and unambiguous. In fact most of the messages questioning the rules are based on the fact that the phrase is definitive, then you have the mods clarifying the reality and effectively contradicting the rule
The big problem here seem to be the inclusion of this phrase
"* The first person to offer the ASKING price gets the goods even if there are offers already tabled but not accepted."
Which as pointed out *seems* to remove the sellers privilege to sell to whom they wish, or to take any tabled offer regardless of the offered price.
From what I've read from Lump regarding common sense and sellers rights none of the concers are valid, however as I've said the rule is definitive. It clearly say that the rule is the first person offering the asking price gets the goods. No amount of talk of common sense and other vacillating changes that. Now this is an easy remedy with the inclusion of the word MAY
"* The first person to offer the ASKING price MAY get the goods even if there are offers already tabled but not accepted, (it remains the sellers right to decide what offer to take)."
that protects the sellers right to choose the higher price in the thread and yet still gives them the freedom to sell to whom they decide which from what I've read is the idea.
Just an suggestion, please don't take this as criticism of what was decided upon, just trying to help
Other than that if possible for the next round of rules I'd like to suggest that sellers are requested to update their initial post when items are sold or when the thread is dead to save trawling through an entire thread to see what's left.
Can I add my 2p not to stir things up but to try and help? The problem is that whilst the rules are a great idea and really aren't a problem for many people (especially me as a buyer not a seller) they're really not very well written
Case in point
"*A photograph of the goods being sold must be displayed with an Accurate Description , with username on a piece of paper and date, helps to stop people selling goods they don't actually have."
Now common sense tells me what that means, because I've seen it happen, however reading it properly, or for the first time, tells me that the *photo* must have an accurate description on it which is all well and good but I doubt anyone would be able to read an accurate description on a photo
that could be better written as, for example:"The for sale post must include an accurate description of the item and a photograph of the item described with your username and the current date clearly displayed on a piece of paper next to the item. This is to help prevent people selling items they do not have."
I know it seems trivial but if you have rules they've got to be clear cut and unambiguous. In fact most of the messages questioning the rules are based on the fact that the phrase is definitive, then you have the mods clarifying the reality and effectively contradicting the rule
The big problem here seem to be the inclusion of this phrase
"* The first person to offer the ASKING price gets the goods even if there are offers already tabled but not accepted."
Which as pointed out *seems* to remove the sellers privilege to sell to whom they wish, or to take any tabled offer regardless of the offered price.
From what I've read from Lump regarding common sense and sellers rights none of the concers are valid, however as I've said the rule is definitive. It clearly say that the rule is the first person offering the asking price gets the goods. No amount of talk of common sense and other vacillating changes that. Now this is an easy remedy with the inclusion of the word MAY
"* The first person to offer the ASKING price MAY get the goods even if there are offers already tabled but not accepted, (it remains the sellers right to decide what offer to take)."
that protects the sellers right to choose the higher price in the thread and yet still gives them the freedom to sell to whom they decide which from what I've read is the idea.
Just an suggestion, please don't take this as criticism of what was decided upon, just trying to help
Other than that if possible for the next round of rules I'd like to suggest that sellers are requested to update their initial post when items are sold or when the thread is dead to save trawling through an entire thread to see what's left.
right im kinda new to the forum lol
so the new rules are basically when u take a photo put date and username on sum paper and show it on the pic?
and then 1st to offer the requested price gets the product?
so the new rules are basically when u take a photo put date and username on sum paper and show it on the pic?
and then 1st to offer the requested price gets the product?
First question - yes
Second question - that's what we are all 'discussing' at the moment.
Still waiting...
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Raffles the thread you give as an example is rubbish,you didn't say you would definatley take it,you said you wanted to haggle a price,someone else offered the asking price and bought it simple as.
It never turned into an auction or a bidding war,someone offered what the kid was asking and he sold it.You showed interest not a commitment to buy.
It never turned into an auction or a bidding war,someone offered what the kid was asking and he sold it.You showed interest not a commitment to buy.
Completely agree, but the rules should reflect the common sense that most people have.
In essence, you are trying to stop the people who post "I am interested" from getting angry with the person that posts "I'll take it, send details" five minutes later.
In my opinion, you should have an all encompassing rule that states that it is the seller's decision who he sells to. Then you might get different sellers with different rules, but at least people aren't turned away from the forum because they don't want to list their item in a certain way and any sensible seller will state their rules at the start of the thread so that no one feels they drew the short straw.