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to train or not to train

Duncan Berry

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i reckon training is a must to play at any decent level, but i'm also a firm believer that if you go up against those that are better than you, you will improve.
so i think a healthy mix of drills and scrimmages (preferably against teams ranked higher than yours) is needed to progress
 

Robbo

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If you care to look at any other serious sport, training is an integral part of that sport, and I think it's a sad indictment of our game that a question like this can even be asked ... think about it !

How the hell can someone ask a question like this if we want to be taken as serious sportsmen?
It's just plain ludicrous.
I would like to make something clear however, I am not having a pop at Woody here at all, he is hostage to the same mode of thinking as a lot of people in our sport and therefore can't be wholly responsible for posing this question.

Of course we need to train if we want to get better, the fact that some dick-squad who don't train managed somehow to beat some pro team somewhere means nothing, it's an aberration, nothing more, and certainly not indicative of something deeper.

However, there are teams out there who just love to play and don't take it too seriously and I suppose they don't need to train at all if having fun is the reason for playing.
But tournament ball is by definition a competitive environment and as such, people will want to win.
As soon as you introduce that competitiveness into your team ethos, training then becomes an integral part of that team's development, it has to.

I will add a rider however, it's no good whatsoever if you ain't training the right way.
A lot of people think they understand our game and their notion of training is consequently skewed because they don't actually understand the underlying paintball dynamics.

Suffice to say, you must take the reductionist approach to training and then reintegrate those elements back into the game in stages.
It's a creative and managerial problem to negotiate this patchwork of team
development but at the same time the most rewarding.
 

Raffles

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The biggest obstacle to training is apathy. Things like cost, time etc. can be found if they really want to be.

As a 'manager' in a previous life it really used to p155 me off when most players used to respond with "I can't be 'rsed" or "It's too cold" etc. etc.

To be good at anything (and everything) you do need to train (am I the only one who's noticed that the top 3 Nintendo DS games are all to do with brain training?).

One little thing to remember (as has been said above) is that if you play as a team - you need to train as a team. Individualism may make you a better player - but your team will still suck.

2p!
 

Silky

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I will add a rider however, it's no good whatsoever if you ain't training the right way.
A lot of people think they understand our game and their notion of training is consequently skewed because they don't actually understand the underlying paintball dynamics.
i was just about to type exactly the same thing, train as much as you want but if your training the wrong way your only gettin better at doing it wrong.
sometimes its the blind leading the blind and unfortunatly newcomers will know no different, till they go along to a pro clinic and realise that what they have been taught and training at for 12 months is nothing but a waste of time.
 

spangley_special

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personally i think a major issue involved here is the number of teams that are training poorly. I see many teams rocking down to a field and shooting a case of paint, scrimmaging a bit and not really having any structure.
Now this will help you keep in the swing of things but you wont see a noticeable improvement.

The only real way to train effectively is to have a player of experience running the show, allowing them to identify areas of improvement and then running appropiate drills to work said areas. Contacting a Pro and soliciting their services for a private clinic is an ideal method, as not only will you learn a vast amount on the day but you will come away with a better understanding of not only how to play but also how to train.

We (Relentless) did this last season, getting Tommy Pemberton for two private clinics and it really helped set the tone for the season.

*edit* just read robbo's and Silky's posts, exactly what they said :)
 

ConnorA1

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train definatly!
in training you can go over mistakes and correct them in the next game
in an event you make a mistake and yo have no second chance
 

jack_judge

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I dont believe you need a pro to teach you to train i admit they do help i.e watching videos etc but i often train with nothing else but a few good mates and some paint and i would say that i have got better without the help of pro's. If your passionate about paintball which i thin we all have that in common your whole life is spent looking on how to get better studying the best the sport has to offer and practicing in your room and on the field. Furthermore a lot of proffesionals have different ways of doing things which is difficult to teach someone who is set in there ways i had a debate with a friend saying when snapping or posting you should have your knee down on the side your shooting to add blance and aid positioning but he then said but what if that doesnt work for someone and they try it there own way and it just clicks does that mean they are doing it wrong because its not how a proffesional would do it?
 

Mello

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yea to train helps alot but i saw one team doin the same drill for 4 hours ! i was like come on guys have sum fun! i belive in a few drills then a few 1 on 1's or 2 on 2's! a good mix up is the best way as no one wants to get bunkered ! haha

i do believe ther is a fine line in taking it tooo serious and playin for the true game. But at the end of the day im in it for fun! to be a team (pretty much like brothers) and even if you do lose, if you played a good game thats whats its about!

peace