BPS question

[NitroBall]

Lately there has been some issues regards to chronoing markers and testing them to the new 12 BPS rules at tournaments(Mills, PA, Masters).
As most players know now, chrono refs have been using chronographs with pact timers to measure the bps to make sure markers are within the tournaments legal limits.

If the stock boards (or even after market boards) are correctly set (most markers set to 11.8 bps, ie egos, ) the ROF of these markers should not shoot or exceed more than 12.0 bps if there was zero bounce wether mechanical, or electronic.

Now what if there was a slight mechanical or electronic bounce when shooting . Would the marker, with the ROf set to the 12 bps limit stay at that limit, the electronics of the board take into account those excess shots(bounce), or would the markers board not recognise those extra bounce , and shoot at a higher ROF.(reason im asking this is seeing so many posts and comments of markers hitting well above 15 bps at tournaments when there markers are set to just under 12 bps).

Ive always had the feeling, if a marker is set to the desired ROF, it will not exceed that even when bouncing around like a happy bunny.

 

[Ali]

i dont think it will exceed the bps limit, because the board wont let the bps go past what its set at so the extra bounces wont be recognised by the board.
corect me if im wrong anyone becuase i probably am

 

[Lump]

had it a few times capped at 12 come off field rof counter say 17
but only with ego, as no other gun i have used has a rof counter

 

[Ali]

ermm i can remeber last masters not the one yesterday but the one before, it was only ego's though. they were capped at 12 but at the crony on the field some were shooting past 15bps. that was only ego's i think.

 

[Polly]

whatever i set my ego8 to the rof counter shows shots 1bps over the cap every so often

 

[sennz]

whatever i set my ego8 to the rof counter shows shots 1bps over the cap every so often

same,

set it on ramping - 15.00 bps. an it reads 16 :/

 

[SwissTony]

same,

set it on ramping - 15.00 bps. an it reads 16 :/

I guess there is a chance that with air pressure fluctuating after each shot, the marker may fire a fraction of a second faster than it should.
If it fires a fraction of a millisecond out and the chrono rounds up, then it could quite easily be 16
15.000000000000000000000000000000000001 bps rounded up would be 16

 

[Dusty]

I think what Nitro means is not using the on gun ROF counter, but using the refs chrono/rof counter.

In theory max rate of fire should kick in, but a good friend of mine was pulled at the masters last weekend. His ROF was capped on a Mini at 12bps, and I witnessed this the week previous when it didn't give any trouble, yet it still measured 15bps over the PACT chrono. Still doesn't know why one week it is fine and the next week without touching it, and keeping the same battery it fluctuated by such a margin.

 

[Lucky]

had it a few times capped at 12 come off field rof counter say 17
but only with ego, as no other gun i have used has a rof counter

The on-board ROF meters, measure the shortest gap between trigger pulls, and basically are just a toy. When you are ramping your fingers are usually just keeping the ramping engaged but by measuring the shortest period between pulls it is possible for the meter to read 17 when the gun was actually doing 12.
yep, they're that accurate
So when the Noobie on youtube tells you he's just got 43bps out of his e-blade and proves it by showing the display, you can now laugh with confidance that it's all bull.

I believe sound meters are the only true way to measure bps but then they have flaws if not used correctly

 

[Fisz]

Well written code will cap the marker's firing rate at whatever it's set to. No more, no less.

The cap is actually affecting the activation of the solenoid and it stops the solenoid from being reactivated before a certain amount of time passes.

Now tell me, how accurate are the chrony's everyone uses?