Paintball is too cheap . . ?

[Bedlam]

£10 extra a box, maybe. But £50-£60 a box? Up to 3 times as much is a big increase, and I doubt it's as easy as you think it is for us all to find that much extra cash.

Get real....you buy good paint, you pay at least £28 a box. So, how many boxes of paint do you shoot in a year? And how much does your luurvely shiny death gatling cost? And how often do you have to change it/service it etc

My point is, we whinge because paintball costs a lot but thats what makes us all dedicated. If you want to play, you find a way.....those that don't, sell their kit and leave the sport. Just check the classifieds or bulk sales.

So, trust me, if you wanna play, you will find a way.

Who said we have to keep everybody on board?

Thats why he's a Mod

 

[Samwell]

Your thinking is totally flawed mate

this sport consists of alot of people who are already have to "find a way" to play the sport they love

increasing on the prices WILL force alot of people to sellup and leave which WILL lead to a decline of an already minority sport

"Who said we have to keep everybody on board?"
nobodies saying it but im sure every manufacturer wants as many paintballers in the sport as possible, also PGI magizine?

 

[snap-shooter]

Ok, so clearly...this was posted by someone who doesn't play or appreciate SupAir ball.

Further more, they do not appreciate, modern electros or at least rapid rates of fire.

On this basis, £50-60 a box would be ok..because you could get away with only using a quarter of a box or half a box a day.

But...I feel his comment, for the wider paintball community as a whole, is quite disrespectful because it prejudices the fact that paintballers are of a diverse nature, with varying rates of disposable income and tastes.

I would assume ( I don't know) that Recballer etc, would use less paint than Tourny players generally, but still, as with SupAir there will be people for whom money is tight and other for whom, it is no object.

The basic attitude is "I don't play SupAir, I don't shoot shed loads of paint and I can afford for paint to be more expensive. Fcuk the rest of you."

Also, 15 years ago the guns did not shoot anywhere close to what could be called "fast".
Not very nice really...but that is just how it appears to me, I may be wrong.

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i wouldn't call money tight but i would find it hard to pay 50-60 quid a box and as for pushing play onto movement rather than preventing movement when i want to do this i play with an inferno

 

[Luke W]

My point is, we whinge because paintball costs a lot but thats what makes us all dedicated. If you want to play, you find a way.....those that don't, sell their kit and leave the sport. Just check the classifieds or bulk sales.

So if it's already expensive, expensive enough that people are leaving the sport, surely more people are going to leave when paint doubles/triples in price.....

 

[Luke W]

Who said we have to keep everybody on board?

Surely this sport (hobby, game, whatever you want to call it) wants more participants, not less?

 

[Buddha 3]

"Who said we have to keep everybody on board?"
nobodies saying it but im sure every manufacturer wants as many paintballers in the sport as possible, also PGI magizine?

A magazine, yes. But a manufacturer... Not per se.
They want entry level paintball to be cheap. Those people easily pay full price for their paint, as they go through one box every two months, if that!

If you think that a lot of tournament players quitting means a real decline in business, you're wrong. I hate to say it, but those guys are responsible for a very tiny fraction of the turnover. And it's the part of the turnover that's responsible for the lowest profit margin. So simply put, these guys are more hassle per dollar made. Not a big loss if they leave... Sorry.

Don't get mr wrong, my sympathy is with the tournament player. But since I've studied business economics, I have to be a realist as well.

 

[!xobile]

If you think that a lot of tournament players quitting means a real decline in business, you're wrong. I hate to say it, but those guys are responsible for a very tiny fraction of the turnover. And it's the part of the turnover that's responsible for the lowest profit margin. So simply put, these guys are more hassle per dollar made. Not a big loss if they leave... Sorry.

true, rec players and walk-ons etc tend to cover the higher profit margin. With that being said, however there would be many things lost were all tournament players to say "**** it" and quit (am I allowed to swear on this forum?). Firstly, say 10%(pick a number) of first timers go on to actually get good and play tournaments. That's at least a 10% decline right there, as well as all the players that currently play tournaments. Yes, it's not a huge number, but I think it'd be enough for people not to over inflate the prices. Most people like money and fame. Companies are going to want to be rich and famous and in order for that, they need to actually sell paint. I guarantee that draxxus would not be praised for their hellfire or chronic for their...well chronic if noobs ruled the earth, cause no one would buy the paint in the first place. It's the tournament players that in fact distribute the idea (for the lack of a better phrase) that a certain paint is better than the others, therefore leading to the better companies with the best paint prevailing. I know this is going VERY extreme and in fact, I completely lost my train of thought right there, but I hope you get what I'm saying. We cannot acurately model a system for paintball effectively because there are just as many models(maybe even more) then say, one for gas. And we all know how gas companies work the market.
btw, who said that charging 60 quid a case is a good idea?????

 

[John C]

If you think that a lot of tournament players quitting means a real decline in business, you're wrong. I hate to say it, but those guys are responsible for a very tiny fraction of the turnover. And it's the part of the turnover that's responsible for the lowest profit margin. So simply put, these guys are more hassle per dollar made. Not a big loss if they leave... Sorry.

So the market wouldnt notice if tourney ballers (and others who enjoy that level of discount) disappeared.
Yet if you beleive the original post, the discount people are getting is crippling the industry.

Which is it?

 

[dude_wheres_my_car]

my mum would make me live on the street if that was the normal price for a box of paint. Also whats with the comment about tennis courts when theyve got nought to do with the price of paintballing?

 

[Buddha 3]

true, rec players and walk-ons etc tend to cover the higher profit margin. With that being said, however there would be many things lost were all tournament players to say "**** it" and quit (am I allowed to swear on this forum?). Firstly, say 10%(pick a number) of first timers go on to actually get good and play tournaments. That's at least a 10% decline right there, as well as all the players that currently play tournaments. Yes, it's not a huge number, but I think it'd be enough for people not to over inflate the prices. Most people like money and fame. Companies are going to want to be rich and famous and in order for that, they need to actually sell paint. I guarantee that draxxus would not be praised for their hellfire or chronic for their...well chronic if noobs ruled the earth, cause no one would buy the paint in the first place. It's the tournament players that in fact distribute the idea (for the lack of a better phrase) that a certain paint is better than the others, therefore leading to the better companies with the best paint prevailing. I know this is going VERY extreme and in fact, I completely lost my train of thought right there, but I hope you get what I'm saying. We cannot acurately model a system for paintball effectively because there are just as many models(maybe even more) then say, one for gas. And we all know how gas companies work the market.
btw, who said that charging 60 quid a case is a good idea?????

Assuming tournament ballers make up 10% of the industry (they don't, but it's an easy number, so we'll go with it), all of them quitting (they won't, but it's a nice example) won't equal a loss in money made of 10%. Sure, turnover may drop by a similar percentage, but not profits. And the loss in profits and turnover will be covered by the higher price of paint.