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Erm, not guilty. It wasn't me I tell ya--it was Big Jay and on this you can safely ignore him 'cus his massive shadow isn't blocking out the sun where you are.
Personally I think there is a divergence in the core participant between 7-man and Xball on the national stage with 7-man having had more of Jay's strutters by a wide margin than Xball.
This I fully agree with.

Apart from saying that it's safe to ignore me. Nobody's ever really safe from me. Not ever... At least not in my mind.;)
 

Chicago

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You guys really need to stop turning every thread into a conversation about me - it is not helping my monstrous unjustified ego at all.

XBall is actually pretty easy to play at nearly ALL locations. The field dimensions are easier to accomodate than 7-man field dimensions. Beyond that, you just need a set of airball bunkers of about the right size. And those same two things go for 7-man as well. For running events, add a laptop and an airhorn to the mix and you're set.

But more importantly, the idea that EVERYONE must play the same format is just simply not true. It's definitely not true in other sports either. Everyone needs to be on the same format PATH. In baseball, you play tee ball, little league with 5, then 7 innings, etc. Soccer you scale up from 7 players in Kindergarten to 11. Even football scales.

For the XBall format, you start people out on 3-man or 5-man, and then they move up to XBall when they have a team that is ready for more organized competition. Or they just keep playing 5-man, if that's what they like.


And even better, you don't even have to take my word on it - we've already proved it. NCPA takes teams, starts them off in 5-man, and moves them up to XBall. Our teams have never had any trouble being able to practice or hold events.
 

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They are not mean, they are simply stating statistics.:rolleyes: I going to go with 8% human, 80% computer, 12% X-Ball propaganda.
 

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XBall is actually pretty easy to play at nearly ALL locations. The field dimensions are easier to accomodate than 7-man field dimensions. Beyond that, you just need a set of airball bunkers of about the right size. And those same two things go for 7-man as well. For running events, add a laptop and an airhorn to the mix and you're set.

But more importantly, the idea that EVERYONE must play the same format is just simply not true. It's definitely not true in other sports either. Everyone needs to be on the same format PATH. In baseball, you play tee ball, little league with 5, then 7 innings, etc. Soccer you scale up from 7 players in Kindergarten to 11. Even football scales.
But we are dealing with a sport that has a much shorter development time in a narrower age range. The last time I checked, there were no 6 year old 2 on 2 X-Ball leagues with a 9 bps ramping limit. No jerk dads coaching on the sidelines acting half of their children's age, no moms filling pods, no crying because " He's mean and that shot huwt mommy!" Also, no matter what level of baseball played, it always has a ball, a bat, and three bases in a three out inning.

A unified format is the answer because everyone will be able to play the same game- no matter where they are. And I'm not fighting for a 7-man world-the real answer will probably be an amalgamation of X and 7 with a little new stuff thrown in!
 

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But we are dealing with a sport that has a much shorter development time in a narrower age range. The last time I checked, there were no 6 year old 2 on 2 X-Ball leagues with a 9 bps ramping limit. No jerk dads coaching on the sidelines acting half of their children's age, no moms filling pods, no crying because " He's mean and that shot huwt mommy!" Also, no matter what level of baseball played, it always has a ball, a bat, and three bases in a three out inning.
I think you're off-base on all of those claims.

Most sports, at least stateside, have LOTS of participants who are young (6->12), the best in each high school who are 13->17, and almost nobody who plays in college or beyond. Paintball starts late, but we also run late into college, so you're dealing with the same timeframe.

There may not be any 6-year-old 2-on-2 XBall leagues, but there are tons of Young Guns 3-man leagues. And I don't know what paintball you've been watching, but there are no shortage of jerk parents - PSP got rid of Young Guns almost entirely due to jerk parents, and I had a couple crying players at an event I was at just 2 weeks ago.

And all paintball is the same - no matter where you play, everyone has a marker, paintballs, and you shoot out the other guys to win. The difference between 5-man and XBall is just how you keep track of time and score.