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[Missy-Q]

What Up Chris,
what a weekend Huh?
Joy get screwed (royally), NPPL loses all credibility, and my significant other gets roughed up by a white-trash doorman who then does a runner.

Worst event experience ever.

 

[Lump]

i missed what happened to JOY please tell ?

 

[Seany]

i missed what happened to JOY please tell ?

taken from Magued's thread:


Anyway we shoot out all the Image players, and we have 3 player alive and with 20 seconds left on the clock our players arrive to their
flag. Only to find that's its no flag there! Brian ask the reff where is the flag? And he gets
a "I don't know" shoulder shrug! Now Brian start to get really stressed and scream to the ref "WHERE IS THE FLAG?"
And my other players scream to Brian to just run back a "imaginary" flag. But when he do the reff says
no you have to have a flag! Witch is not there...
Brian then run back and pick up a empty pot and start run back with it. And when he is 3-4 meters
from our flag the reff calls it game over!

So when that happen we just called Dave Zinkham directly. The reffs explain that because we didn't actually
run a flag back we couldn't get the transit or hang! I argued that its their job to make sure its
a flag in place as it will be extremely hard to hang a flag if its not there... I think
you understand now the degree of stupidity that we have to go thru dealing with those morons.
Not only are they so lazy that they don't check flags before game start, but the lack of common
sense is exactly why they game after game make huge mistakes.
And for us it meant that we missed the semis, with a hang we would have had 12 point more than Image.

 

[Lump]

have they got in for JOY or what

 

[Seany]

have they got in for JOY or what

+1

 

[Chicago]

What Up Chris,
what a weekend Huh?
Joy get screwed (royally), NPPL loses all credibility, and my significant other gets roughed up by a white-trash doorman who then does a runner.

Worst event experience ever.

A big pile of bull**** all around. The old guy even tried to pretend the other doorman didn't exist, like we imagined him or something.

What's weird to me is everything was great until about 3:30 PM on Sunday, then total reversal.

 

[Baca Loco]

Hey, kids, guess what? I’m gonna take a contrary position, quel surprise!

Can we all agree that KC was a debacle? Can we agree on the reasons why? Maybe, maybe not. At one level KC (at least the Joy part) was just another screw-up by the refs. But was that all it was? I’d say no. I’d say the institution (the owner/promoter) is really responsible because real problems are addressed and it seems apparent to me, perhaps uncharitably, that the institution doesn’t really assign a particularly high priority to on field issues. The NPPL has always been more concerned with image and its other goals than with the actual on field competition and in that regard the evidence says nothing has changed.

Bottom line, who is responsible for the officials and the officiating and the enforcement of the rules? The buck’s gotta stop somewhere and it’s clear it doesn’t stop with the on field ultimate. And if it hasn’t been addressed yet why should anyone assume it will be this time? What is critical mass on treating the game you’re supposed to be promoting with respect and integrity? Or is that too harsh and is everyone just incompetent?

7-man is dangerously close to professional wrestling status when the rules aren’t really the rules and teams get to tell the league what they will and won’t do in the course of the competition. While I’ve nothing against either the Men or Impact the combined action of all the participants, including the refs, league officials and teams was appalling and made a mockery of paintball as legitimate sport.

Okay, here’s where I’m moving into contrary territory–or maybe I’ve already crossed that line–and it is with regard the super-secret might be coming unified league (or whatever it really is). While I can understand the idea that such a move might be necessary in the current environment I can’t for the life of me see why it’s the best answer particularly if some of the same peeps who currently treat paintball as sport with such disdain are gonna be in charge.
Maybe it’s just me but what’s the point of running top tier world class pro paintball events if your principle commitment isn’t to the game? It might as well be badminton or croquet because the game itself doesn’t matter when it’s only a vehicle to some other purpose. I’m not suggesting there shouldn’t be consideration for a viable financial plan and model but the game can’t be a side issue. And if the future new unified league isn’t about promoting paintball as sport with respect and integrity everything else it’s trying to accomplish will fail too for the simple reason that who will care about some fringe sport if the people responsible for it don’t?

 

[Missy-Q]

Hey, kids, guess what? I’m gonna take a contrary position, quel surprise!

Can we all agree that KC was a debacle? Can we agree on the reasons why? Maybe, maybe not. At one level KC (at least the Joy part) was just another screw-up by the refs. But was that all it was? I’d say no. I’d say the institution (the owner/promoter) is really responsible because real problems are addressed and it seems apparent to me, perhaps uncharitably, that the institution doesn’t really assign a particularly high priority to on field issues. The NPPL has always been more concerned with image and its other goals than with the actual on field competition and in that regard the evidence says nothing has changed.

Bottom line, who is responsible for the officials and the officiating and the enforcement of the rules? The buck’s gotta stop somewhere and it’s clear it doesn’t stop with the on field ultimate. And if it hasn’t been addressed yet why should anyone assume it will be this time? What is critical mass on treating the game you’re supposed to be promoting with respect and integrity? Or is that too harsh and is everyone just incompetent?

7-man is dangerously close to professional wrestling status when the rules aren’t really the rules and teams get to tell the league what they will and won’t do in the course of the competition. While I’ve nothing against either the Men or Impact the combined action of all the participants, including the refs, league officials and teams was appalling and made a mockery of paintball as legitimate sport.

Okay, here’s where I’m moving into contrary territory–or maybe I’ve already crossed that line–and it is with regard the super-secret might be coming unified league (or whatever it really is). While I can understand the idea that such a move might be necessary in the current environment I can’t for the life of me see why it’s the best answer particularly if some of the same peeps who currently treat paintball as sport with such disdain are gonna be in charge.
Maybe it’s just me but what’s the point of running top tier world class pro paintball events if your principle commitment isn’t to the game? It might as well be badminton or croquet because the game itself doesn’t matter when it’s only a vehicle to some other purpose. I’m not suggesting there shouldn’t be consideration for a viable financial plan and model but the game can’t be a side issue. And if the future new unified league isn’t about promoting paintball as sport with respect and integrity everything else it’s trying to accomplish will fail too for the simple reason that who will care about some fringe sport if the people responsible for it don’t?

I don't see where thats a contrary opinion to be honest Senor Loco. A can of worms with 'DO NOT OPEN' written clearly in English and Spanish has been opened for no good reason, and the only way out of this mess is via the guillotine in my opinion, otherwise the NPPL's last stop will be 'Sham-town'.
I'll tell you something to be really appalled about when I see you in Orlando. Not even half the story is on here.

 

[Chicago]

Well Baca, I see what you're saying, but I think what you think is the problem is actually the solution.

All the people you need to run a solid league that puts the sport first and paying for it a close second are already there. The problem is they're split across two leagues, and not all in the correct roles.

Take the right people, get them in the right roles, and get them working in the same league, and things will go very well.

 

[Dannefaerd]

I don't see where thats a contrary opinion to be honest Senor Loco. A can of worms with 'DO NOT OPEN' written clearly in English and Spanish has been opened for no good reason, and the only way out of this mess is via the guillotine in my opinion, otherwise the NPPL's last stop will be 'Sham-town'.
I'll tell you something to be really appalled about when I see you in Orlando. Not even half the story is on here.

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