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Hey Whale.
Wanna give another view of the proceedings?
In the bigger picture it never ceases to amaze me--though by now it probably ought not--how hellbent Paintball is on self-destruction. I begin to wonder if Paintball can ever overcome it's most ardent supporters.
Wanna give another view of the proceedings?
In the bigger picture it never ceases to amaze me--though by now it probably ought not--how hellbent Paintball is on self-destruction. I begin to wonder if Paintball can ever overcome it's most ardent supporters.
What's done is done now. However much we look at this from every perspective its not going to change anything and we will never get to the bottom of the reasoning. I think a lot of people looked at this from the rough edge, was the decision made by the teams and the NPPL really that bad?
Wow a most interesting prediciment the boys in stripes got themselves into.I thought i had seen it all i guess i retired too soon.This will be interesting on what change this may produce.
It was horrible. What happens when it's the last event of the season, and one team is gunning for first in the series but is out with 110 points, while one of the teams in the finals only needs 24.5 points to end up with 110.5 points? I'll tell you what happens - both teams conspire to forfeit.
League administrators absolutely can not just 'come down from upstairs' and overturn the calls of the ultimate. And if they can, you might as well just fire the ultimate and save yourself some money. NPPL has just doomed themselves to never finishing an event before 8 PM on Sunday, because anytime there is a hint of controversy, the teams are going to spend 45-60 minutes arguing with the field judges, then arguing with the ultimate judge, then arguing with the OTHER ultimate judge, and finally having Shawn Walker come downstairs to give the only opinion that matters, and then repeating that for the next two games, because NPPL just proved that it will work.
Somebody over there has to say 'This is the rulebook. Whatever is in the rulebook is the rule. This guy is the Ultimate. He makes sure the rules are followed. Once he makes the decision, THAT IS THE DECISION.' There's a reason every other sport on the planet operates this way. Because if you don't, you don't have a sport, you don't even have a game.
Chicago, what makes you think you can ask me a question that warrants an answer?
But for the sake of any interested readers, your question should have been asked in this way:-
'Is what we are doing now, the right way to go about it'?
When you answer that question appropriately, it will then answer your somewhat inappropriate question.
Chris, things have got to change but trying to score meaningless debating points on here with ridiculous questions like this one you pose isn't exactly the right mindset that's needed.
It's not all bad news for you tho, I would actually use you as a touchstone of sorts, as and when necessary, because I do think you have some good ideas, the tricky bit is, trying sift the bad ones out.
Hopefully, there might be some good news after WC but it will be more than likely after San Diego.
Of course I don't think what we're doing now is the right thing.
But I also don't think everything we're doing now is the wrong thing either.
There are very good pieces in what is being done now. There are some very big changes that should be made to improve things. I just don't think that starting from scratch is likely to be an overall improvement. It would be better to look at what is available now that works, keep as much of that as possible, then fix what needs fixing.
But, we're also talking in such unspecific terms here that what I'm suggesting and what you're suggesting might not even be at the same level. There are definitely some areas where a fresh restart would be very helpful.
But, my main point was that there's no guarantee that just because it's new it's going to be better. It's not like there haven't been a whole bunch of other 'new' things over the past few years that didn't exactly catapult us to complete success either. Hopefully this time will be different, but just starting over isn't, by itself, thebest way to success.
But I also don't think everything we're doing now is the wrong thing either.
There are very good pieces in what is being done now. There are some very big changes that should be made to improve things. I just don't think that starting from scratch is likely to be an overall improvement. It would be better to look at what is available now that works, keep as much of that as possible, then fix what needs fixing.
But, we're also talking in such unspecific terms here that what I'm suggesting and what you're suggesting might not even be at the same level. There are definitely some areas where a fresh restart would be very helpful.
But, my main point was that there's no guarantee that just because it's new it's going to be better. It's not like there haven't been a whole bunch of other 'new' things over the past few years that didn't exactly catapult us to complete success either. Hopefully this time will be different, but just starting over isn't, by itself, thebest way to success.
The basis for any improvement has to be a unified league because without that premise, it sentences us (paintball) to a somewhat fragmented and uncertain future.
I agree with your appraisal inasmuch as not all the things we are doing now are bad but it's much better we do these good things with one league.
It's not exactly rocket science to distinguish the good things we are doing from the bad and I genuinely think you could have some significant input to any new order but the trick with you is, to have you on a set of reins otherwise you'll go all 'brockdorffian' on our asses.
I think any new management of a combined league will necessarily have to look toward people like yourself for ideas and from what i know, the people in question are receptive.
Chris, i think you and I want exactly the same thing here and I am sure in a more general sense, paintball does too, but like a lot of things, it's how we get there that seems to be the real problem.
See ya at World Cup Chris.
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I agree with your appraisal inasmuch as not all the things we are doing now are bad but it's much better we do these good things with one league.
It's not exactly rocket science to distinguish the good things we are doing from the bad and I genuinely think you could have some significant input to any new order but the trick with you is, to have you on a set of reins otherwise you'll go all 'brockdorffian' on our asses.
I think any new management of a combined league will necessarily have to look toward people like yourself for ideas and from what i know, the people in question are receptive.
Chris, i think you and I want exactly the same thing here and I am sure in a more general sense, paintball does too, but like a lot of things, it's how we get there that seems to be the real problem.
See ya at World Cup Chris.
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Oh, if you thought I thought two leagues was a good thing, no wonder you thought I was being an idiot.
I wholeheartedly agree that one league is the only way to go.
I'll be happy to buy at Cup.
I wholeheartedly agree that one league is the only way to go.
I'll be happy to buy at Cup.