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Dskize

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I remember watching an Info-mercial /advert for the NRA (with CH)whilst in Florida, I was originally quite incensed by what it/he was saying and how it /he was saying it but at the end all was forgiven, a gift was on offer if you signed up for membership within 30 days of the advert,it was a mounted Silver Bullet with Charlton Heston's signature engraved on it...seriously, someone back me up if they saw this..


that made me smile for days ..
 

NitroBall

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Lets face it...in the UK...if everybody had the right to own a gun and potentially use it to defend person or property in the right circumstances, it doesn't automatically mean everyone will tool themselves up...but...it does mean, that every time a criminal decides to do something, such as burgle a house, or rob a shop...he faces the very real threat of being shot dead.
Your gun comment, illustrates my point, that if gun ownership were to legally be more widespread in the UK, it doesn't mean everyone would own one...but the risk is there, for the would'be housebreaker/carjacker/rapist/murderer.
This would be more of a target for bigger punters to break in to your house. A gun on the black market would fetch twice the amount it would cost if legally sold in gun stores.
You would be suprised how easy it is to buy from the black market, not saying i have .

Back in the 80's , when i joined a indoor gun club in Matlock, i almost bought 2 hand guns there . At that time, hand guns could be legally bought and taken home as long as the police inspected your property, and you had the necessary safes installed. Gun had to be empty and the rounds had to be kept seperate in another safe.
But with the amount of burglarys and guns going missing, i gave it a second thought and decided to just rent the guns out at the club. Also with my mum and dad being unhappy with the thought of having a hand gun at home.
 

Skeet

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This would be more of a target for bigger punters to break in to your house. A gun on the black market would fetch twice the amount it would cost if legally sold in gun stores.
You would be suprised how easy it is to buy from the black market, not saying i have .

Back in the 80's , when i joined a indoor gun club in Matlock, i almost bought 2 hand guns there . At that time, hand guns could be legally bought and taken home as long as the police inspected your property, and you had the necessary safes installed. Gun had to be empty and the rounds had to be kept seperate in another safe.
But with the amount of burglarys and guns going missing, i gave it a second thought and decided to just rent the guns out at the club. Also with my mum and dad being unhappy with the thought of having a hand gun at home.
They can already get guns...they don't need to break into your house for one. Just as not all homeowners would acquire a gun for protection...not all thieves would either...just because they are criminals, it doesn't mean they are completely devoid of emotion, morals or a sense or self preservation.

My point still stands.

And the illegal gun market, isn't as lucrative as you would think...if there wasn't a ready supply available, yes it would be...but that isn't the case, and you can go pick up a .38 cal snub nose revolver for about £50-£75 in the right places.

Glocks and things are more expensive, but then, they are anyway.
 

NitroBall

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They can already get guns...they don't need to break into your house for one. Just as not all homeowners would acquire a gun for protection...not all thieves would either...just because they are criminals, it doesn't mean they are completely devoid of emotion, morals or a sense or self preservation.

My point still stands.

And the illegal gun market, isn't as lucrative as you would think...if there wasn't a ready supply available, yes it would be...but that isn't the case, and you can go pick up a .38 cal snub nose revolver for about £50-£75 in the right places.

Glocks and things are more expensive, but then, they are anyway.
Yes but...is that clean ?

If i was in the game, i would make sure it was clean.

But then i always clean my markers down before the next game;) :p
 
oh come baca i am trying my hardest at the moment not to talk like a tard on this forum its not my fault im dyslexic (hence the not being able to spell and craft sentences wel).
i do actually try very hard to type these posts without any thing wrong with them so that i dont get flamed and called a noob, or even as you have done, have my posy edited.
but at the end of the day it isnt my bloody fault i was born with the problem.
even now for this post i have edited a good 5 or 6 times so that it is ok to read because i messed up the spelling on a lot of the words.

EDIT ADDED:the edited post was both text speak and incomprehensible. I certainly appreciate difficulty in constructing legible posts but this is a forum and as such we's all communicating with the written word and there are rules. As long as you avoid text speak and your posts make some sense you'll get a pass. Btw, this should have been a pm, not an off topic post in a thread.:) TFP
 

Crusher

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Do you not find it weird that in America you can walk into walmart and buy a paintball marker and paintballs but over here you cant walk into sainsburys and buy one. i thought they were strciter on that sort of stuff in america.

post up thoughts please
No, it is a sign that people actually want to purchase the items. IF you have ever been into one of the larger stores you will see that what they offer is mainly entry level semi auto paintball markers, entry level accessories and low to mid grade paint.

Walmart is not the only outlet for this level of equipment, usually in the outdoors/recreational area. Most sporting goods stores carry paintball equipment.

The reason Uk stores don't do it (IMHO) is the stigma of a high street name selling what could be seen as dangerous to the general public. To the general public in the UK a GUN SHAPED OBJECT MUST BE A GUN! Its a culture thing.

When I walk in to a store here and pick up a paintball marker and take it outside, people KNOW that it is a marker, because it doesn't resemble the pistol or rifle they see every day at home.

As for how we got to the availability of firearms in this thread I do not understand. I will say one thing on this, and be done. Firearms, generally, are far more respected for what they do and their intended use than a lot of places. They are used for their purpose of defense and as a last resort, they are "tools", cold hard steel, not a "novelty", "flash it to all your mates" item that makes you big and hard, a real man, a real banger, a real threat to the local hoods. Now also imagine, KNOWING that IF you use that firearm in the wrong manner, a lot of places ARE GOING to take your life away, literally or other.

I like the nuclear analogy, I can acquire it/buy it/have it, but if I use it.....I had better be ready for the consequences. I will not put you away and rehabilitate you for a few years so you learn the error of your ways...I'm gonna push that button!

Now stop looking at what you don't have....and enjoy what you do.

PEACE
 

Crusher

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I Bought My Spyder Like 7 Yeras Ago At A Walmart And They Never Even Asked For Id
But if you ran in a store with it and said "empty the register" thay would have fell over laghing...because they know what it is.

What do you think would have happened in Thetford? How long would it have been in the news?

Not until I got here did I see one of the reasons UK paintball is so behind now. For a relativly low price a group of friends can markers and start playing, not just on an organised field, grandma's farm, John Does wood etc. They can go when they like, where they like (using common sense and permission) and play, then they play some more. Competition between friends in a fun atmosphere, is what they are doing. When they decide to step up to tournaments, they usually have far better skills and understanding of what they and their equipment can do, rough diamonds so to speak!

The UK doesn't have this grass roots access to equipment and free areas to play...it is a social/cultural thing.