Pay as you go road tax petition soon to close.

[baker21]

id say the only reason there arnt many votes to people in the uk is that not many know of this petition,i only know of this cos of Alien_Balliztix posting this up(cheers for the heads up ).i am sure if people knew of this there would be millions of votes.

 

[Flash-Bugout]

But is it not a more fair system if the company rep doing sixty thousand miles a year ends up paying more road tax than the granny doing a 2 mile round trip to the super market once a week?

 

[DeepPyro]

But is it not a more fair system if the company rep doing sixty thousand miles a year ends up paying more road tax than the granny doing a 2 mile round trip to the super market once a week?

Yes, but they already do tax him more with petrol tax. This will just hit us twice.

Plus for anyone outside a large city, the state of public transport means having a car is a necessity not a choice.

DP

 

[Flash-Bugout]

Yes, but they already do tax him more with petrol tax. This will just hit us twice.

Plus for anyone outside a large city, the state of public transport means having a car is a necessity not a choice.

DP

I see where you're coming from with the petrol tax, but surely that's just a sales tax on a consumable. Road tax covers the wear and tear on the roads* infrastructure, and should therefore be a variable tax related to usage. Then again, what do I know - I think there should be a speed camera in every lamppost

I know what you mean about the state of public transport though - perhaps the extra revenue raised from a PAYG road tax could be spend on re-nationalising public transport, making it truly public again, and sorting out the service.


*SMALL PRINT: yes, I'm aware that what I've just said is a massive over-simplification, and also nowhere near the truth, but it makes my arguement easier

 

[Ahdinko]

it says after 100 votes they will look at your petition. any lower and they will disregard it. tbh the u.k has a population of what 6 million isn't it or is it more - and there is no where near 1 million votes so even though i have signed it i doubt that it will make much difference to their plans which is a bummer cos i start driving this year and i guess there isn't much point in getting a car or anything if this happens.

Around 60 million.

 

[Kat]

Uh oh

I'm not liking the sound of that! I've only just got my car and it's hard enough to run it as is! Damn government.
Signed.

 

[Rider]

petrol is taxed and dutied....

we pay VAT on fuel (17.5%), but on top of that we pay fuel duty (another 51.52p per litre of unleaded, or 48.35p per litre low sulphur diesel...)

to be honest i think that adds up to quite enough taxing per litre of fuel, without us then effectively paying another tax.

the more you travel the more you pay in tax anyway - so why change it? if anything there should be a discount on road tax for those that drive it below say 6000 miles and an extra for those over 25000 per year - but how it would be policed....maybe make the mileage compulsory entries on the MOT and road tax forms?

all monies from "road tax" are pooled into the "road duty fund" - from there it gets divided between the various local authorites, highway authorites, and only a small amount is held in reserve for major projects. the local authorites are apportioned most of the cash - supposedly for road repairs and improvements - but they are not obligied to spend it in this way....

 

[Baca Loco]

I see where you're coming from with the petrol tax, but surely that's just a sales tax on a consumable. Road tax covers the wear and tear on the roads* infrastructure, and should therefore be a variable tax related to usage. Then again, what do I know - I think there should be a speed camera in every lamppost

I know what you mean about the state of public transport though - perhaps the extra revenue raised from a PAYG road tax could be spend on re-nationalising public transport, making it truly public again, and sorting out the service.


*SMALL PRINT: yes, I'm aware that what I've just said is a massive over-simplification, and also nowhere near the truth, but it makes my arguement easier

And just think of the prospects further down this road. Consider the unequal burden placed on health care systems by excessive intact of fatty foods and alcohol. Perhaps an unhealthy surcharge is in order for those who abuse their fair share of both. And I'm sure the sewage systems see unequal "use" and the only fair way to handle that is with a flush charge, isn't it? And look, every time you exhale you're spewing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and somebody has to clean that up, don't they? So you should probably be wearing a meter that calculates the cubic volume of polution you're creating so you can be appropriately taxed for breathing too.

 

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you can be appropriately taxed for breathing too.

I didn't know you were one of Tony Blair's spin doctors

 

[Cusack]

And just think of the prospects further down this road. Consider the unequal burden placed on health care systems by excessive intact of fatty foods and alcohol. Perhaps an unhealthy surcharge is in order for those who abuse their fair share of both. And I'm sure the sewage systems see unequal "use" and the only fair way to handle that is with a flush charge, isn't it? And look, every time you exhale you're spewing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and somebody has to clean that up, don't they? So you should probably be wearing a meter that calculates the cubic volume of polution you're creating so you can be appropriately taxed for breathing too.

Quoted for the truth, and amazing examples.



Flash-Bugout -
Looking at our buses, it's funny that think this tax is to be applied to individual drivers and apparently to be spent on public transport, when one of my local routes has ditched the double deckers in favour of doubly frequent, expensive, and jam f***ing packed single deckers??? Now, if anyone with any of the appropriate responsibility had been consulted (a provider of goobernment funding maybe) it wouldn't have happened, so why give them more money if they can't properly spend what they've got?