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evoonline

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i agree . the faster the markers can shoot the less skill is involved. it takes practice to fire 15bps but to pull a trigger 3 times and let the marker take over isnt skill
 

Lovetone

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Feb 25, 2005
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i agree . the faster the markers can shoot the less skill is involved. it takes practice to fire 15bps but to pull a trigger 3 times and let the marker take over isnt skill
there are different types of ramping.

to acheive 15bps on millenium style ramping isnt that much of a cake walk.

also, tbh, unless youve played competitively with ramping, you're probably in less of a position to comment. now, im not saying you havent. but a lot of the opposition to the ramping at regional events seems to come from the lower / less experienced players (sweeping generalisation, but heh, sue me)

ergo, dont knock it til you've tried it.
 

evoonline

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if im right the PA uses ramping? its nice to have a choice. i dont know of any other leagues in the north which are semi only. if it isnt broke then dont fix it... i have been told this many times when messin with markers :) and i think the same applies here. UKM is perfect as it is and there should be no need to mess.
LOVIN THE ANGELS AND WAT THEYVE ACHIEVED!
 

Lovetone

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if im right the PA uses ramping? its nice to have a choice. i dont know of any other leagues in the north which are semi only. if it isnt broke then dont fix it... i have been told this many times when messin with markers :) and i think the same applies here. UKM is perfect as it is and there should be no need to mess.
LOVIN THE ANGELS AND WAT THEYVE ACHIEVED!
the PA uses PSP style ramping.

Fair enough you're saying; essentially to have variety in the regional events, however if there is a call for ramping, then it should at least get a good hearing and perhaps a test (which i hear is going ahead in the upper divs, or maybe was that at the 7man? cant remember, i dont pay that much attention).

I stil stand by my point however, which was in essence dont knock it til you've tried it.

The game you play isnt just reliant on the skill of acheiving high gun bps.
The assistance of ramping helps you develop other skills such as running and gunning, laning, sweet spotting etc. Making moves on a ramping field is also in one way easier - as you can rapidly dominate an oppositions position and make your move...and also more of a challenge - in that its hard to avoid a hosing at 15bps when running thru a lane.

I think the PA league this season will be the defining UK tournament both in terms of format and gun rules.

As for 15bps semi - not a lot of people can achieve that, no matter what your angel screen readout might tell you. Straight semi that is.
An advantage of ramping is that (for the most part) people see it as evening up the field and stick to 15.4bps programming (obviously there are some who would cap their markers higher than this, as ive witnessed personally at the PA). Something that is harder to control is capped 15 semi at the masters. sure the vast majprity of people will roll in semi there (dont beleive the hypeif you think some people DONT play ramp cos they do) , but most players will make sure there gun is as on the edge as possible, in other cases blatantly adding shots.

i think ramping evens the fields.

having said all this however, at a recent training against ECI, they played in ramp, and the firm used semi, and we didnt feel outgunned at all (thankyou, mr ego seven :) )
 

solo69

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Not knocking what you are saying!;)

BUT i have played both and love ramping as a front player its ACE:D :D :D

However you only have to look at the fall in numbers of the PA teams from 44 bufore ramping and coaching to 16 or LESS? is this a result due to ramping i am not to sure but have the feeling it JUST MAY WELL BE;)

The masters needs to leave it well alone and continue with its sucessfull ways!!!!:p

Johnny
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evoonline

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i think the added cost has to also be taken into consideration. some teams are heavily supported and can afford to shoot more whilst i know some teams (including mine) have little to no financial backing and therefore have to pay for everything. when ur payin for ur paintball aswell as ur everyday life stuffs then ramping would be a down point on paintball. i know if UKM took up ramping then i wouldnt beable to afford to play on and im guessin im not the only person out there in the same predicament.
 

Lovetone

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Not knocking what you are saying!;)

BUT i have played both and love ramping as a front player its ACE:D :D :D

However you only have to look at the fall in numbers of the PA teams from 44 bufore ramping and coaching to 16 or LESS? is this a result due to ramping i am not to sure but have the feeling it JUST MAY WELL BE;)

The masters needs to leave it well alone and continue with its sucessfull ways!!!!:p

Johnny
Rebellion:mad:

the change occured from 44 to 16 now due to xball as well dude...
 

Lovetone

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i think the added cost has to also be taken into consideration. some teams are heavily supported and can afford to shoot more whilst i know some teams (including mine) have little to no financial backing and therefore have to pay for everything. when ur payin for ur paintball aswell as ur everyday life stuffs then ramping would be a down point on paintball. i know if UKM took up ramping then i wouldnt beable to afford to play on and im guessin im not the only person out there in the same predicament.
i once paid over £80 for day at the masters...so its not that cheap playing in semi.


what makes you say that anyway?
you dont use that much more paint, and like ive said, ramping helps other parts of your game heping you make them moves that count, get bodies off the break, run and gun etc. so games can be won more readily if you know what you're doing..