Uk National Paintball league
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It's the weakest link in modern day sports in the UK. FFS we are one country, there are not enough of us to split it into 4 countries.
To put it into paintball terms. Let's say we combine the many tournament series into one, great. Then split it up again into 4 geographical categories, what's the point. Seperate divisions for the level of play is a must, but it must remain one league.
To put it into paintball terms. Let's say we combine the many tournament series into one, great. Then split it up again into 4 geographical categories, what's the point. Seperate divisions for the level of play is a must, but it must remain one league.
I think you may have a read a little too much in to my post there Tom.
The '5 Nations' thing was to be a "once a year" tournament not a whole series.
A bit like the Welsh Open - but based on a Country theme (maybe even get other countries involved further down the line).
I agree - one big national league is the 'ideal' - but that's all it is - and probably all it ever will be in our lifetimes.
The whole idea of the '5 Nations' was to generate outside interest (maybe even some media coverage
) - not to become the UK ball norm.
Hope that explains my idea a bit better.
The '5 Nations' thing was to be a "once a year" tournament not a whole series.
A bit like the Welsh Open - but based on a Country theme (maybe even get other countries involved further down the line).
I agree - one big national league is the 'ideal' - but that's all it is - and probably all it ever will be in our lifetimes.
The whole idea of the '5 Nations' was to generate outside interest (maybe even some media coverage
) - not to become the UK ball norm.Hope that explains my idea a bit better.
I don't think a combined league like your suggesting would work. You are advocating multi day events that tour the UK in the same way the Millenium tours Europe. From a practical point of view not enough teams would have the resources to meet the higher costs this would entail. That's already been discussed.
There is an alternative though. If we accept that only a minority of teams can afford to travel to play we should reduce the number that need to. Let's reduce it to the teams competing at the top end of the spectrum and for simplicity call that the National League. We then have Regional Leagues below that for newer teams, displaced rec ball player teams etc to compete in. And below that we have the Rookie Events etc.
The unification aspect would come from the organisers all agreeing a format for each level of play, Local, Regional and National, and encouraging teams to take part at the appropriate level. All three levels do not have to be the same format but the local and regional formats should be consistent across the country. Winners of Regional League could compete for places in the National League and losers of the National League compete not to be demoted out to their Regional League. If series prizes from the Regional Leagues included a seasons entry to the National league that should help teams transition with regards to cost of now having further to travel, higher level of training needed etc . Industry sponsors could aim their sponsorship at the National League teams creating more competion to qualify for it and therefore driving standards up and helping those teams with the higher costs.
The benefit for the organisers for signing on as a recognised event would come from being able to put their marketing budgets towards promoting a unified series of events rather than just their own. i.e they benefit form other events marketing the series. They could also benefit from combined purchasing power and sharing reffs etc. This is a route the Millenium organisers are already travelling as an example.
An obvious issue of contention at the moment is the thought that the National Serieswould be competing for the same teams playing the Regional Leagues so it becomes an issue of money and profits. The best solution I can see is an agreed cap on the number of teams in the National Series. As UK Paintball grows hopefully this could increase by agreement. As an example Russ has already stated the PA does not need lots of teams to follow through on their ideas of running a league meeting Sport Council guidelines. If this capping system was agreed it should show the National league is not there to take profits away and should give Regional organisers the confidence to move forward with the idea.
We already have a lot of events in place that would slip into this model and would just require binding together under a single banner. Obviously it would take vision for the existing organisers to sign on to the concept and see it will benefit them all in the long run. I could write in more detail but this is more a thoughts thread than detailed propsal thread so I'll stop now.
The ultimate question that we all seem to be missing is:
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easy...cause your a twat ...The ultimate question that we all seem to be missing is:
Why, when I am in denmark, with 15 hot easy women next door, am I sat on p8nt talking sh1t?
so the conclusion is that nothing is going to change,and this topic will be back same time next year pity the three organisers can,t agree on a single format at least . but at least its a new season and we can all try to improve our game.one good thing for the new year is that the woodland scene seems to be getting thier act together with organised walk-ons and a 5-man tournie scene that uses the same format through out the country no matter who is organising it, they call it the national paintball club and the genesis series this could be the firm base from which britball starts to grow again.some teams have seen the potential and are starting woodland teams to nurture new ballers in a steadier enviroment and also giving the hobby ballers among us a viable alternative to sup-air without all the politics, that disillusion alot of players who just throw in the towel and packup so the powers that be should look at what the organisers of the npc have started and take aleaf out of thier book one format but none of the organisers have lost any of thier patch infact most have grown through thier co-operation with each other.maybe next year sup- air can learn to do the same (wishful thinking )
pity the three organisers can,t agree on a single format at least . but at least its a new season and we can all try to improve our game.one good thing for the new year is that the woodland scene seems to be getting thier act together with organised walk-ons and a 5-man tournie scene that uses the same format through out the country no matter who is organising it, they call it the national paintball club and the genesis series this could be the firm base from which britball starts to grow again.some teams have seen the potential and are starting woodland teams to nurture new ballers in a steadier enviroment and also giving the hobby ballers among us a viable alternative to sup-air without all the politics, that disillusion alot of players who just throw in the towel and packup so the powers that be should look at what the organisers of the npc have started and take aleaf out of thier book one format but none of the organisers have lost any of thier patch infact most have grown through thier co-operation with each other.maybe next year sup- air can learn to do the same (wishful thinking )
and dont forget the ionman series, its like the genesis series but with a different name and runs at different sites i think!
but yeah how off topic - three, two, one does it make much difference?
the ones that dont work will die out and the ones that do will evolve - natural selection or darwinism can't remember which they call it
but yeah how off topic - three, two, one does it make much difference?
the ones that dont work will die out and the ones that do will evolve - natural selection or darwinism can't remember which they call it
oop sorry!!!! but this has just joined the npc aswell i think all looking good for woodsballers. come on sup-air organisers get on the band wagon and get together
all looking good for woodsballers. come on sup-air organisers get on the band wagon and get together