I think he was talking about the price at which DF is getting their paint in, and how much they sell them on for. But yeah like Liam92 said, cheapest I've seen personally for branded paint is £18
DeltaForce Paintballing
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yeah that's what i mean, sterling shield (the same paint DF uses) used to sell at a trade price of £17ish (at least that's what we got) the last i worked in the industry
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My local marks up the prices on alcohol, KFC give me 10% off but still markup their chicken prices, restaurant steak costs me a fortune
Delta Force are a paintball business. They charge people a price for a day out.
Paintball is expensive. It needs sites, staff, equipment, insurance, council approval and many more expenses.
Every paintball site in the UK exists only because punter players turn up and pay the full price for paintball
Most people frequenting this forum are regular players who benefit from the other paintball options provided by sites - walkons, big games, scenarios, tournaments etc
Like every punter site delta forces prices are available.
My pet hate are bad ticket sellers that tell buyers they are getting their full day out for a basic entry price - and especially those who falsely claim tickets are valid at other sites. The site staff end up being the ones who take the flack from customers - and absorb the loss of accepting invalid tickets
Delta Force are a paintball business. They charge people a price for a day out.
Paintball is expensive. It needs sites, staff, equipment, insurance, council approval and many more expenses.
Every paintball site in the UK exists only because punter players turn up and pay the full price for paintball
Most people frequenting this forum are regular players who benefit from the other paintball options provided by sites - walkons, big games, scenarios, tournaments etc
Like every punter site delta forces prices are available.
My pet hate are bad ticket sellers that tell buyers they are getting their full day out for a basic entry price - and especially those who falsely claim tickets are valid at other sites. The site staff end up being the ones who take the flack from customers - and absorb the loss of accepting invalid tickets
Nobody disputes that you need to charge more than you pay out, or else that's what you call a charity
I know i've mentioned it on p8nt somewhere before, not sure if in this thread, but Delta Force and the ticket sellers IPG are the same people. Basically the costs of IPG getting people in the door by selling those tickets is absorbed by Delta force. IPG ticket sellers work on almost 100% commission so they lose about £1M each year but DF bails them out every year from their £10M income, leaving £9M profit before site expenses in the UK. or figures round about that anyway. Since ticket sellers work on commission only, they don't care about directing people to independent sites (even if they aren't valid) because a sale is a sale, but that doesn't mean independent sites are obliged to accept them.
Yes on the day an independent site may decide to let them play with these tickets without making any money off entry because it's paint sales they otherwise wouldn't have got, plus might get a bit of repeat business later. However no site is obliged to do so just because some ticket seller misled one of their buyers.
Nobody disputes that you need to charge more than you pay out, or else that's what you call a charity
I know i've mentioned it on p8nt somewhere before, not sure if in this thread, but Delta Force and the ticket sellers IPG are the same people. Basically the costs of IPG getting people in the door by selling those tickets is absorbed by Delta force. IPG ticket sellers work on almost 100% commission so they lose about £1M each year but DF bails them out every year from their £10M income, leaving £9M profit before site expenses in the UK. or figures round about that anyway. Since ticket sellers work on commission only, they don't care about directing people to independent sites (even if they aren't valid) because a sale is a sale, but that doesn't mean independent sites are obliged to accept them.
Yes on the day an independent site may decide to let them play with these tickets without making any money off entry because it's paint sales they otherwise wouldn't have got, plus might get a bit of repeat business later. However no site is obliged to do so just because some ticket seller misled one of their buyers.
I know the connection between IPG & Delta Force, and my opinions on Delta Forces UKPBA have been made clear on here & other forums in the pastNobody disputes that you need to charge more than you pay out, or else that's what you call a charity
I know i've mentioned it on p8nt somewhere before, not sure if in this thread, but Delta Force and the ticket sellers IPG are the same people. Basically the costs of IPG getting people in the door by selling those tickets is absorbed by Delta force. IPG ticket sellers work on almost 100% commission so they lose about £1M each year but DF bails them out every year from their £10M income, leaving £9M profit before site expenses in the UK. or figures round about that anyway. Since ticket sellers work on commission only, they don't care about directing people to independent sites (even if they aren't valid) because a sale is a sale, but that doesn't mean independent sites are obliged to accept them.
Yes on the day an independent site may decide to let them play with these tickets without making any money off entry because it's paint sales they otherwise wouldn't have got, plus might get a bit of repeat business later. However no site is obliged to do so just because some ticket seller misled one of their buyers.
The Salisbury IPG sellers don't know my face or name but hate me. This started when people would try to get information to take away from them to pass on to me. No sale no information, but everyone would tell them if they gave a little information for me I would bring numerous players. Over the years about everyone I know has spoken to IPG in the area
In other locations I have on occasion spoken with IPG sellers and when they know I am a paintballer they tell me how much better DF sites are then anywhere else I could go - even when I show them films of scenario games, guerrilla paintball and the working props, turret gun etc that we have in TFD
Street/shopping centre sellers have one aim which is to sell tickets. Some individuals are more honest (or less ignorant) than others
But in the case of IPG/DF I have never seen them misrepresent the sites that tickets can be used
Delta force covers the country
I've never been to a DF site, but have no problem with them
Though I would in most cases recommend someone chooses an independant local site
Other ticket sellers have not been so honest and have deliberately made false claims on sites
I do have a problem with them
have to admit many moons ago i did buy some tickets from IPG ( for the law society i ran at the time) and used them at a delta force.
I'll be honest...the IPG boys never said a word wrong but they also didn't spell out every letter. At the time i had never played before so it was all new to me. When they said 7.99 per 100 balls (on the back of the tickets, salesmen never mentioned it) i thought sweet, day out for £3 entry and £21 on balls. £24 tops. ended up closer to £50 as the paint isnt top quality so you use a bit more and the naivety of me being reserved with paint was also ridiculously off the rails. The high price comes with the territory though...its a punter day.
The ticket sales system is rather harsh as its first timers that tend to get collared by it. I'll be honest the solihull site is OK, very waterlogged sometimes but its a forest...its going to happen. It's just annoying the fact that your presented with an unbelievable deal that in reality is a load of rubbish compared to the reality of the situation (which if bought as package deals wouldn't be as bad).
Saying that... I have attempted to contact local sites to arrange a day with the lads recently, i haven't even had a response. I can tell you now i can pick up the phone to delta, speak to the representative who sorted everything for me the last time (who i have to admit did a super job and i haven't forgotten her name as a result) and get a day booked in minutes. If im honest its tempting... its certainly a lot easier as im trying to organise it alongside my final exams/deadlines for my law degree. (Please don't ask me to name and shame the local...I wont as im rather sure its due to other commitments and the amount they do for the sport outweighs them not getting back to me. I haven't had a chance to chase them up but i will do when I can.) My point being that their service isnt exactly completely awful...its just the corners they cut thats a little annoying.
IPG are awful...delta is ok. But its a joint venture...as already noted they are owned by the same people. If IPG went and the sales tactics changed i could see it being a lot better company with a few other small improvements (better paint, less hostility towards walk on days etc). I have a neutral view of delta but hate IPG with a passion.
The kitten has been thrown to the wolves. In true exam style...Discuss.
I'll be honest...the IPG boys never said a word wrong but they also didn't spell out every letter. At the time i had never played before so it was all new to me. When they said 7.99 per 100 balls (on the back of the tickets, salesmen never mentioned it) i thought sweet, day out for £3 entry and £21 on balls. £24 tops. ended up closer to £50 as the paint isnt top quality so you use a bit more and the naivety of me being reserved with paint was also ridiculously off the rails. The high price comes with the territory though...its a punter day.
The ticket sales system is rather harsh as its first timers that tend to get collared by it. I'll be honest the solihull site is OK, very waterlogged sometimes but its a forest...its going to happen. It's just annoying the fact that your presented with an unbelievable deal that in reality is a load of rubbish compared to the reality of the situation (which if bought as package deals wouldn't be as bad).
Saying that... I have attempted to contact local sites to arrange a day with the lads recently, i haven't even had a response. I can tell you now i can pick up the phone to delta, speak to the representative who sorted everything for me the last time (who i have to admit did a super job and i haven't forgotten her name as a result) and get a day booked in minutes. If im honest its tempting... its certainly a lot easier as im trying to organise it alongside my final exams/deadlines for my law degree. (Please don't ask me to name and shame the local...I wont as im rather sure its due to other commitments and the amount they do for the sport outweighs them not getting back to me. I haven't had a chance to chase them up but i will do when I can.) My point being that their service isnt exactly completely awful...its just the corners they cut thats a little annoying.
IPG are awful...delta is ok. But its a joint venture...as already noted they are owned by the same people. If IPG went and the sales tactics changed i could see it being a lot better company with a few other small improvements (better paint, less hostility towards walk on days etc). I have a neutral view of delta but hate IPG with a passion.
The kitten has been thrown to the wolves. In true exam style...Discuss.
thats what happens when you build on green belt without planning permission
.bit late to the party here, but douglas valley do let you use your own stuff, dont do walkons very often but they dont mind you using mechanicals on normal days either. give em a ring off the website and ask for rich or message them on fb. the staff and the gears are a thousand times better than what DF supply at any rate.
heck of a lot cheaper too!!
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Haha, well yeah if you go on eBay you'll find a box for £25... Bare in mind DF have around 32 centres in total and they send on average 120 boxes to a centre per week. They also have their own formula for paintballs which have delta force printed on them, which come packed in delta force boxes, which are the worst quality paintball I have ever come across. So yeah, about £5 a box
If anyone's interested Delta Force have started to experiment with walk ons recently. They had a walk on day recently in Westerham and having another one soon in Coventry.
Taken from their Facebook page:
"Our first walk-on paintball day is happening on Sunday 21st April at Kent paintball centre.
This is fantastic news for paintball enthusiasts who don’t have their own kit but would like to take part in a paintball walk on day. We have limited numbers of Tippmann Crossover markers available for rental, as well as Primo loaders.
This kit is available on a first come first served basis, so make sure you register your attendance and book your place on Sunday at the Kent paintball centre on 0844 477 5075."
Think price was £55.00 for box of 2000, unlimited air refills etc.
Taken from their Facebook page:
"Our first walk-on paintball day is happening on Sunday 21st April at Kent paintball centre.
This is fantastic news for paintball enthusiasts who don’t have their own kit but would like to take part in a paintball walk on day. We have limited numbers of Tippmann Crossover markers available for rental, as well as Primo loaders.
This kit is available on a first come first served basis, so make sure you register your attendance and book your place on Sunday at the Kent paintball centre on 0844 477 5075."
Think price was £55.00 for box of 2000, unlimited air refills etc.