Is it bad that all i really want to know is that if the little door you can see on the side of the stock is a tool compartment ?
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i've always liked the idea of functional scenario markers rather than gas guzzling, heavy bling guns but its just a shame that i don't get to play enough to justify buying a setup like that.
The rotor on top looks ridiculous!
Also i'm probably wrong, but i thought any fully-automatic air-powered gun (airsoft, paintball, or air-rifle) was illegal in the UK?
Also i'm probably wrong, but i thought any fully-automatic air-powered gun (airsoft, paintball, or air-rifle) was illegal in the UK?
I think it's a technicality of the law since I'm general practise full auto markers are in wide use in the uk
They have ramping, which is considered burst as it's several shots per trigger pull, not full auto as far as i know? I've never really tried with my ego to be fair...tournie markers are capable of full-auto, non?
But i heard somewhere if a firearm is fully automatic (ie just hold the trigger and it goes for it) it is illegal / considered illegal?
I agree with spooly, looks crap and has hardly any use in the english market, (no offence to other nationalities and their laws on paintball) first marker i ever had was the alpha black had those similar modes absolutely no use in england because of legalities.
the alpha black was a weighty beast obviously this should be lighter so maybe thats a pro??? ha
Taken from the UKPSF Facebook page
Select Fire Modes
There has been a lot of discussion with regards to which of the above modes are "legal" in the UK. I have had several discussions with the Home Office during the past four years with regards to paintball markers and the law. In December 1997 the Home Office replied to a question I asked concerning select fireboards in electro-pneumatic markers. The statement issued at the time said:
"While only the courts can offer a final ruling, it seems likely that a paintball gun capable of fully automatic or burst fire would count as a prohibited weapon under Section 5(1)(a) of the Firearms Act 1968. The maximum penalty for possessing such an item is ten years imprisonment. A circuit board or chip to allow fully automatic or burst fire would be a component part of such a weapon".
Further discussions this week and letters exchanged between the UKPSF and the Home Office have confirmed that Section 5(1)(a) prohibits any weapon, which discharges two or more missiles with one operation of the trigger.
Approximately two years ago representatives from the industry and the UKPSF had a meeting with a Firearms Officer and as a result of the meeting he was "happy" with the "turbo" mode demonstrated at the meeting. After further discussion with the Home Office this week they agree it is a "grey" area and that the only way of confirming the legality of the "turbo" mode would be in a court of law. There has yet been no case law relating to paintball markers. We do not want a court case, as the damage it could do to the sport of paintball is immense.
Another area that will create problems is the advent of select fire modes. These are the modes that the paintballer can programme into the marker with the possibility of programming some unique modes i.e. fire five shots in semi mode and then the marker goes to fully automatic mode or three shots in semi and then the marker fires two shots for every trigger pull. This would contravene the Firearms Act but would probably not be detected by the "chronograph" marshal at an event. The technology is not available to check the modes of a paintball marker at a paintball tournament. Currently chronograph marshals check the velocity and occasionally rate of fire but in future will they be expected to check the mode of the marker using a PC? The responsibility for the marker to be set in an approved mode is the players NOT the chronograph marshal or the event organiser.
There are now several versions of "turbo" boards available but without the use of sophisticated electronic equipment it is virtually impossible to confirm the rate of fire in relation to trigger pulls at a paintball event. Also players who have programmed a unique mode into their circuit board would probably say to the event organiser that they had a "turbo" mode as the word "turbo" now seems to cover any assisted trigger function.
Discussions have also been held with one of the Insurance Companies who cover paintball sites and events. They have expressed their concern with the current situation with regards to "assisted triggers". They are concerned that the increased rates of fire could result in equipment failure and therefore injury to the player
In America where the law allows the use of fully automatic and burst fire modes the paintball industry in conjunction with tournament organisers has decided to allow only semi automatic modes. The very powerful American Medical Association has stated "Paintguns which were "mode capable" of firepower greater than "semi automatics" were a threat to the health and safety of the public". The American Paintball industry feel that the political weight pulled by the AMA is immense and to protect the sport of paintball they must act now and restrict modes to semi automatic. The manufacturers of paintball markers will also be limiting the rate of fire to 13 shots per second on circuit boards.
With all these points being taken into consideration the United Kingdom Paintball Sports Federation has decided that as of today (26/01/01) the only recognised mode for a paintball marker is SEMI - AUTOMATIC.
ONE PULL OF A TRIGGERRELEASES ONE BURST OF GASFIRING ONE PAINTBALL.
Accidental double balling will not be deemed as breaking this rule.
The UKPSF requests that all paintball sites and events organised in the UK operate this ruling.
This statement supersedes any other statement previously issued.
Select Fire Modes
There has been a lot of discussion with regards to which of the above modes are "legal" in the UK. I have had several discussions with the Home Office during the past four years with regards to paintball markers and the law. In December 1997 the Home Office replied to a question I asked concerning select fireboards in electro-pneumatic markers. The statement issued at the time said:
"While only the courts can offer a final ruling, it seems likely that a paintball gun capable of fully automatic or burst fire would count as a prohibited weapon under Section 5(1)(a) of the Firearms Act 1968. The maximum penalty for possessing such an item is ten years imprisonment. A circuit board or chip to allow fully automatic or burst fire would be a component part of such a weapon".
Further discussions this week and letters exchanged between the UKPSF and the Home Office have confirmed that Section 5(1)(a) prohibits any weapon, which discharges two or more missiles with one operation of the trigger.
Approximately two years ago representatives from the industry and the UKPSF had a meeting with a Firearms Officer and as a result of the meeting he was "happy" with the "turbo" mode demonstrated at the meeting. After further discussion with the Home Office this week they agree it is a "grey" area and that the only way of confirming the legality of the "turbo" mode would be in a court of law. There has yet been no case law relating to paintball markers. We do not want a court case, as the damage it could do to the sport of paintball is immense.
Another area that will create problems is the advent of select fire modes. These are the modes that the paintballer can programme into the marker with the possibility of programming some unique modes i.e. fire five shots in semi mode and then the marker goes to fully automatic mode or three shots in semi and then the marker fires two shots for every trigger pull. This would contravene the Firearms Act but would probably not be detected by the "chronograph" marshal at an event. The technology is not available to check the modes of a paintball marker at a paintball tournament. Currently chronograph marshals check the velocity and occasionally rate of fire but in future will they be expected to check the mode of the marker using a PC? The responsibility for the marker to be set in an approved mode is the players NOT the chronograph marshal or the event organiser.
There are now several versions of "turbo" boards available but without the use of sophisticated electronic equipment it is virtually impossible to confirm the rate of fire in relation to trigger pulls at a paintball event. Also players who have programmed a unique mode into their circuit board would probably say to the event organiser that they had a "turbo" mode as the word "turbo" now seems to cover any assisted trigger function.
Discussions have also been held with one of the Insurance Companies who cover paintball sites and events. They have expressed their concern with the current situation with regards to "assisted triggers". They are concerned that the increased rates of fire could result in equipment failure and therefore injury to the player
In America where the law allows the use of fully automatic and burst fire modes the paintball industry in conjunction with tournament organisers has decided to allow only semi automatic modes. The very powerful American Medical Association has stated "Paintguns which were "mode capable" of firepower greater than "semi automatics" were a threat to the health and safety of the public". The American Paintball industry feel that the political weight pulled by the AMA is immense and to protect the sport of paintball they must act now and restrict modes to semi automatic. The manufacturers of paintball markers will also be limiting the rate of fire to 13 shots per second on circuit boards.
With all these points being taken into consideration the United Kingdom Paintball Sports Federation has decided that as of today (26/01/01) the only recognised mode for a paintball marker is SEMI - AUTOMATIC.
ONE PULL OF A TRIGGERRELEASES ONE BURST OF GASFIRING ONE PAINTBALL.
Accidental double balling will not be deemed as breaking this rule.
The UKPSF requests that all paintball sites and events organised in the UK operate this ruling.
This statement supersedes any other statement previously issued.