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Tournament Rules:- are they too complex?

Dark Warrior

www.paintballscene.co.uk
Nov 28, 2002
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rule 1 semi only ,only way to do this would be standard boards only or one make of board so cheat modes could be stopped:)
most of the other rules should be common sense
the playing on rule is one of the hardest,and needs alot of common sense;).
Rule 1a. If a ref suspects a marker is firing outside the rules, then that marker is suspended from play and the owner must demonstrate that the marker is set at the preset factory semi mode to prevent any enforcement of penalty.
 

Exile

The Tao of Pooh
Jun 20, 2006
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Yes, they are.

Rulebooks are getting to thick, and too much left to "discretion", which transalates into inconsistency.

So, here is my own set of rules:-

1. Semi -auto only. No ramping. All guns checked as they enter the field.
2. DQ any players that have a ramping gun or any other manner of gun cheat.
3. Hot guns: -50 for any 3 shots over 910.
4. DQ any players for playing on or wiping.
5. Excessively padded clothing is not permitted to be worn. This does not mean wearing a DYE or Empire jersey whcih is expressly made for paintball, but a puffa jacket that isn't.
6. Points: Flag hang 50
Eliminations 10
(Giving a max of 100)
7. Game time 5 mins.
8. That's it.

Well, that was easy. All I have to do know is find a tournament series that will adopt them.
1. Semi-only? You mean no electronics then right?
2. How is this defined? What about if an o-ring blows out causing full auto (as can happen on some designs) - is that punishable by DQ?
3. 3 shot strings? how dreadfully 1994. Why not keep it even simpler - no shot over 300fps (like it is at present).
4. DQ players for playing on? So you'll make one bad/wrong ref call ruin a players day and possibly a team. Good luck with that.
5. Can't remember the last time I saw a player in a puffa jacket on-field, but whatever.
6. Again, what is with this archaic scoring? Is the 3 pts win 1 pt draw and Elimination difference (a la most "proper" sports) so difficult to understand?
7.
8 Really? So there are no flags or field boundaries, no defined ref calls, players can punch one another and the refs, take knives and tools on-field, cut holes in the netting and shoot from off-field (whatever happened to Jeremy Salm anyway?), move the bunkers around, walk off-field to gas & pot up and come back on, pass equipment between dead players, dead players can talk and coach etc. etc.

A simple rulebook is a lovely idea in cloud cuckoo land, but let's be honest, the current rulebook (even in it's un-organised state of flux) is for the most part very simple to read and understand by nearly all players - stripping away a lot of the seemingly superfluous rules would just allow those of a more devious mind to run riot.

You complain that the current rulebooks allow too much "discretion", but your rules are even worse in my opinion - the above is five minutes thought, if an event used your "rules", then I promise you that you'd be abandoning it after the first game or two due to all the arguments.
 

Tony Harrison

What is your beef with the Mac?
Mar 13, 2007
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Exile, to reply to your points in turn:-

1. Semi-only? You mean no electronics then right?

- I'm not sure what you mean by this. All electroinc guns - Ego's. DM's, Angels, etc. can shoot semi just by selecting a different fire mode.
 

slam

Euro, ICPL and ECPL ref.
Feb 27, 2002
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Exile, to reply to your points in turn:-

1. Semi-only? You mean no electronics then right?

- I'm not sure what you mean by this. All electroinc guns - Ego's. DM's, Angels, etc. can shoot semi just by selecting a different fire mode.

However unless you only allow boards that are provided by the tourney and replaced the day of the next tourney then you will never rule out cheater codes.
 

Tony Harrison

What is your beef with the Mac?
Mar 13, 2007
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However unless you only allow boards that are provided by the tourney and replaced the day of the next tourney then you will never rule out cheater codes.
Not at all - all you need to do is to employ a tech judge/chrono ref who knows what he is doing.

(For example, me.)

There is no such thing as a "cheat code", only preset modes. I've used most guns and boards, so know how they work.

Besides, it doesn't take much to spot a ramping gun on a field where only semi auto's are supposed to be being used - just ask the NPPL.
 

Buddha 3

Hamfist McPunchalot
Besides, it doesn't take much to spot a ramping gun on a field where only semi auto's are supposed to be being used - just ask the NPPL.
And who then did nothing about it on many occasions...

Anyway, another good way to seriously reduce gun cheats is by making the penalty high enough (and enforcing it). You have a gun cheat? You are banned for life. And your team is disqualified.