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go-one

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Originally posted by sammy K
It just seems silly to me, if it's not broken dont fix it.
But the general concensus is that it is broke !! So if that is the case then alternatives have to be looked at and th locked leagues system seams to work for most sports in the world.

Originally posted by Sammy k
If teams feel they are good enough to make the bump up to the pro division then they bump up.
But you just complained half the present pros can't cut it anyway ??? The teams who are 'happy to just avoid relegation' will sooner or later get relegated. I know I'm From Coventry !!!

And be replaced !! You will never get an etirely competative league, even the NPPL Pro div is very devided between the top 2, a chasing pack and the also rans !!! Leaving it open just makes it worse. Have your pro v pro only but at the mo that means XSV etc are still knocking heads with HPG / Jags etc who have struggled this year !

Lock it all down to divs of max 15 (20 for lower divs) based on seeding. Top 2 divs lock for the season. Div 3 down changes each event with top 3 up down (less top 3 of div 3 who go uo at end of season !!!!)
 

Xaitan

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If we whant paintball to get rekognised as a sport in europe, then changeing the league to the format that almost every other big sport in Europe has is the first step. My god, they way it is now, me and my div 2 friend can enter as Pro just to have something to brag abaut. Thats nuts!
And the relegation/promotion will make it more interesting. Now teams have to preform at there top, because you can bet your nuts that the team's that is below them will.
I whuld like to se the last 2 teams drop out, #13 and 14 to have a playoff whit #3 and 4 in D1 at the last event of the season. That way, hopfully, we whon't have teams that drop out of pro, just to slaughter everyone in D1 and move up next year.

Hope I made sence whit my bad engling spelling :)
 

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Well, NPPL did this, and did it do NPPL any good?

No - they've got just as many crappy Pro teams as they did before. And they have several Semi-Pro teams that are better than half of the "pro" teams who can't get into Pro because it's been locked, and won't be able to because NPPL doesn't have enough teams get kicked out of the division to make way for lwoer-division teams that are better.

The problem with his whole theory is that paintball teams are NOT like pro teams in other sports - if you look at football teams, those teams are highly profitable entities, and they will beg,borrow and steal teh best players they can find, from halfway across the planet if they ahve to. You can't expect that of paintball teams - the budget just isn't there. Kick half of the "pro" teams out, it's still going to be the players that are relatively close to each other will be on a team, because travel budget trumps getting distance talent. The best players on the teams you kicked out arn't going to move to another pro team halfway across the continent and make that team better - they're just going to play the lower division. Hell, they may not even move to another team in their own country because the teams are mostly run by the players, and the players don't have much interest in kicking themselves off their own team to make room for someone else.

This change hasn't worked or NPPL, and it isn't going to work for Millenium either.

Yes, it may be "broke', but just doing something isn't going to do you any good - you gotta do something that's ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP.

At the end of the day, the reason tehre isn't any sponsor dollars for European teams is because the european paintball market is smaller than the US paintball market. Trying to solve a smaller market by resturcturing the pro league is just silly. If you want moe dollars in Europe, Millenium should have a publicity drive to get more Europeans playing paintball.
 

wil2436

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I think you're looking at this in the short term. There are teams in the NPPL semi-pro that are better than the teams in Pro, but how long will that last? The bottom two teams are going to be replaced every season. So those who bearly make the cut this season will probably get cut next season. In a few seasons the pro teams that should be in pro will be there
 

go-one

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Originally posted by wil2436
I think you're looking at this in the short term. There are teams in the NPPL semi-pro that are better than the teams in Pro, but how long will that last? The bottom two teams are going to be replaced every season. So those who bearly make the cut this season will probably get cut next season. In a few seasons the pro teams that should be in pro will be there
And thats assuming they don't sell out first !!!! (see news section)

The cream will rise, but it only ever covers the top !!!!!