where is paintball going?

[IanC]

Originally posted by BOX
IanC

You make some good points my freind. Been in the sport long?

Didnt Arenaball have all of those things plus some of the woodland skills?

My legs are bent, my eyes are dim and my gun is old!

i would still rather play 10man in the woods!!

Well until recently my gun was old, only moved away from my trusty tricked out mag as I moved out of the woods!

Been playing for about 3 years, marshalled before that.

I've played woodland tourneys, speedball, hyperball, various demented concept fields and sup'air. Have to say i've enjoyed playing paintball regardless of format but after my first stint on a sup'air field (Campaign 2002) there was no going back!

Sure 10 man woodland is fun, we used to play a few challenge days with some guys who were old time ballers "Team Hellfire" I think. Fun but really only one way it could go, we ran over, through and around them for most of the games!

Not all woodland skills are obsolete, whereas in the woods you would be shooting round / through shrubbery, on a sup-air field you are looking for tiny gaps between or under barricades to worm out the opposition. And if you like sneaking about then the ultimate crawl has to be a full length snake on the tape!

Laterz

Ian

 

[John C]

It would be great to have the glory days back, when British teams spanked the Americans left right and centre.

It is true the skills needed for paintball have changed, but the top players now are more skilled than they were 5 or 10 years ago. The amount of time teams spend training in order to compete at the top level proof of this.

You cant crawl a ditch and backdoor a whole team or pull off a dead mans walk (in fact u can its just harder) on a supair field, these skills have been replaced.
You can now crawl down a snake, shoot half the other teams players in the back and then go and mug three back players, all with huge amounts of paint flying back and forth, that is a bigger buzz than pissing about in the woods from my experience.

 

[BOX]

Hmmmmm

Maybe the only way to be convinced to to play a sup'air tourney.

Anyone what to lend me a maker (i dont think my mini-cocker is up to it!) and giz us a game down south?

 

[JoseDominguez]

I've played tourney for two and a half years and money is no object............. so obviously I've got the best kit available....yet we still get beaten???????? how can that be happening?

Regardless of the kit, it's the player that counts........ base semi to 20 bps, what's the real difference? if you suck then you just miss 20 times a second with a top end marker.
This argument happens in every sport, usually the old guard pining for what's gone.
Air ball is all about speed and position, moving up on the other team, it's just a different skill base to woodsball/pump etc.... and most teams have pretty good kit, even at the lowest level, so it's the skills that make the difference.
Yes, a base marker and a top end marker are different. But most players are using mid range kit......... and bear in mind that a lot of the price difference is milling/anodising and cosmetics.
So, I'm one mid level player who's happy to accept that he gets beaten by better players. Not by the kit
Nexus could use pumps, they'd still beat us

 

[Hotpoint]

Originally posted by JoseDominguez
So, I'm one mid level player who's happy to accept that he gets beaten by better players. Not by the kit
Nexus could use pumps, they'd still beat us

Player ability certainly counts but I think you're going a bit far with the notion that kit matters so little that even pumps in the hands of pro-players would be more than a match for average players with high-end electro's

A few years back at the first European Indoor one of the teams entered was Bille De Clown (sp?) who were playing with Sterling Pumps (albeit very nice sterling pumps) against the Angel and Shocker equipped masses

Despite playing Pro (and being the World Pump Champions) they were still shot to bits by teams they would have eviscerated if equally equipped. They didn't actually come last at the event but if we'd all been using pumps I reckon they would creamed pretty much everybody in sight

All you had to do was pin them in by sheer firepower (which they couldn't match) so their superior skills couldn't be deployed

Firepower is probably a more important element than skill in the modern game. It's just that the best teams have both

 

[BOX]

Hotpoint

That is what i was kind of trying to say, i whish had a better grasp for the english language. Must be down to getting lit up in the head so many times!

How come Robbo still looks the same these day!? does he not age like the rest of us? (He has chilled out a touch it seems )

 

[Skeet]

Robbo looks very good for a guy who's knocking on 50 you know!
Also, having no hair tends tro do the job, along with being built like a brick sh1thouse!
Gaz