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Nick Brockdorff

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I was thinking about this today.

It doesn't really make any sense to me!

Sticker rule:

You are allowed to anodise your gun any way you want, you are allowed to wear any colour clothing (both except orange ofcourse) - but when it comes to stickers on loader and gun, the MS suddenly becomes completely anal, and decree only one sticker on each side of your entire setup, and even of a fairly small size.

I honestly don't see the purpose of the rule.

Problem USED to be, that players covered their guns and loaders in orange/yellow stickers, to hide hits.... so instead of saying "no yellow/orange stickers" - the MS decided to take this drastic step.

We all want to promote our sponsors best possible, and the best way to do so, to ensure exposure for sponsors in pictures and videos, is putting stickers on our gear..... it's part of being professional.

What would be the problem with just saying stickers could not be yellow or orange.... and then allowing anything else?

Neck protection rule:

We are allowed to wear thick knee/shin protection, padded pants, thick elbow/forearm protection, ANY head protection.... but when it comes to the neck, the one place where a player can REALLY get hurt when hit multiple times.... the MS suddenly thinks that ONLY neoprene should be allowed (BTW the most "bouncy" material in paintball - which makes the rule even dumber).... and if you do not have a neoprene neck protector, your are **** out of luck, and the MS prefer you play without protection.

I do not see any good reason why the rule should be restricted to one type of fabric only..... especially as that fabric is then curiously disallowed in most other equipment (or would a full body neoprene suit be allowed ? :rolleyes:).

"Leaving equipment behind" rule:

This rule is the same as in the NPPL, where in HB I saw a team lose a game, because one of their players happened to drop a shoe by accident during the breakout... which ended up costing the team a 141 after the game when they only had 1 player left alive, which in turn swung the game to a win for the other team, and cost the penalised team a spot in the semi-finals.

With the current MS rules, that call could very well be made by a MS ref, and it would in fact be in accordance with the rules..... pure stupidity.

Come to think of it... what IS the problem with a player dropping equipment during a game?

Originally the rule was conceived, because someone thought it "unfair" that you could put down equipment to run the flag back faster.... I never understood why that was a problem?....... if everyone is allowed to do it, it will have no real significance at all... and also be something that is very rarely seen anyway.

(yes, obviously the flag hanger needs to bring his gun, to be chronographed... but anything else is not really that important)

Changing this rule to saying that THE GUN cannot be dropped (and allowing anything else), would mean players no longer got eliminated for dropping their loader or other equipment by accident, which happens all too often (it's not like players drop equipment on purpose during a game under the current rules.... then they wouldn't have brought the equipment in the first place!).

Out of bounds rule:

Here is another "stellar" example of a rule that traces its history back to the good old woodland days, where it had real significance.

But - today - where every MS field is nettet.... why on earth do we need field boundries other than the netting?.... is it REALLY that big of a problem to our sport, if a player happens to cross some line of the floor that has no real significance for the game?

I don't think so!

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I think sometimes the people writing the rules are overthinking them to a very large degree, and are envisioning worst case scenarios that have no basis in reality.

- Or maybe they just like complicating matters, that need not be complicated at all?

Let's get rid of all the stupid rules, that have no other purpose than giving refs weird reason for eliminating players, and that have absolutely no game altering significance.

Nick
 

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Agree with the neck protection rule.

About leaving equipment: it's pretty obvious. The rule is there to prevent tossing hit equipment. And if one loses equipment accidentaly, it's not 1-4-1, it's elimination of the player only (a whole different thing!).

As for loaders, I'm all for black only. Soooo much easier for refs and spectators see the hits and we all want this to be spectator friendly, don't we ;)
 

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The reason you are not allowed to leave equipment behind is because people used to pull the get-hit-in-glove/wipe-hit-with-gove and leave-glove-under-bunker trick.

Also, it makes the refs lives unnecessarily complicated when people start ditching equipment that can then be shot later - now we got refs trying to watch players and the shoe they left out in the shootable open back 20 yards.

Stickers:

Anything on the hopper that makes it cluttered makes itharder for refs to make calls. The sticker rule is a good one, and we should have MORE rules like this regarding equipment, not less. I know a certain equipment manufacturer that has a pattern that has no oange or yellow in it that still hides hits. What do you need all these stickers for anyway?

Besides, if the rule was "No unreasonable stickers", you can see all the whining and bitching that gets us.

NEck Protection: Agan, we need more rules like this. The head/arm/knee padding thing is a little out of control, especiallynow that we play on grass/turf instead of rockey paintball field dirt.

And is it really so much to expect that people who spend $1500 on markers, $150 on a top-of-the-line hopper, etc, spend $20 on neck protection?

Out-of-bounds:

There needs to be an area between the players and the netting - for refs, for cameras, for equipment, etc. Why is it a big deal to stay within the line?



Now, if oyu want to comlpain about a rule, how about the one that if you throw a flag against the station in xball, the point doesn't count?
 

Red Ring Inflictor

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The real weird rules are:

Pick up a paintball off the floor and use it = elimination.

Explain that one.:rolleyes:

Or shoot a ref to hades and back in the last game in the finals and what do you get? A one-game suspension.

Also, if you get hit while carrying the flag the flag goes back to the base. The carrier or ref isn't stood up like in NPPL or the flag isn't dropped like in NXL. Instead territory is lost and a cluster-frag is invited (seen it happen).

Many more where these came from.:(
 

Chicago

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Originally posted by Red Ring Inflictor

Also, if you get hit while carrying the flag the flag goes back to the base. The carrier or ref isn't stood up like in NPPL or the flag isn't dropped like in NXL. Instead territory is lost and a cluster-frag is invited (seen it happen).
Amusing how many rules are still there from the woods.
 

ali t

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neck protection

c'mon guys...
a piece of neoprene, bout 1" thick like a dog choker ain't gonna give you 'full neck protection'

'ballers are gettin a good deal here wearin' a neckerchief...less likely gettin a smack in the windpipe...and looks pretty sweet too!

and about the whole 'you can conceal a hit in a neckerchief'...

its rarely seen these days in this sport that a player is gonna be tagged ONCE and in the neck...with current marker regs being 15 b.p.s. surely the other 14 gonna rip through your feedneck/hopper/mask/hand etc...

please guys lets ease off on such stringent ruling and make this sport kickass like we all know it is!!!

....end transmission:)
 
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duffistuta

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Originally posted by sammy_k
Anal rules !
Keep your personal habits off this thread please Samuel. And stay on the boat.

Is the dogleg rule still in play? What about the climbing up trees rule?